Pisces 30 - Archetypes, Thoughtforms, Dreaming the Future, and our Power to Make it Real
by Robert Wilkinson
The Sun has now entered the final degree of the 360 steps of transformation, the last degree of Pisces. This is the Omega point, the space of the end of the end of the old year and the beginning of the new, as symbolized by the first degree of Aries, the Vernal point of entry into Spring and our time of fertility and work toward whatever harvest the coming seasons will yield. Now is the time to be as clear as possible about the form of what you would see made manifest in the future, since 30 Pisces is said to be a degree of "Archetypalization."
It is said in "The Astrology of Personality" in the short notes on the Sabian Symbols that this is a degree of the "Eventual concrete manifestaion of all higher poetic images and enduring truths of the race. Sure culmination of effort." Referencing the original Jones' work on the symbols, we find "The Great Stone Face," taken from a Nathaniel Hawthorne tale. Among the notes, "...human responsibility as an immortality of the soul, and... living which has become a continual manifestation of its ideal..." He continues: "Each individual selects the image within himself to which he would shape himself outwardly, and this he comes to resemble..."
He reminds us that "Character is destiny," in the sense that as you shape your character you make your Destiny. The keyword for the symbol is "Discernment," which we are told that "the degree is self-integrity in its irresistible impact on the course of events." It is a challenge to articulate an effective self-realization in a continual manifestation of an ideal and self-discovery to encourage others in an alignment to eternals.
Dane Rudhyar takes it to mean "the power of clearly visualized ideals to mold the life of the visualizer," which is basically thoughtform building yielding and demonstrating a self-transformational power. As he states in his masterwork, "An Astrological Mandala," "This power can be developed through visualization, when the emotions and the will are poured into the visualized mental image." This is one of the powers latent in the human vehicle, called "siddhas," which have been demonstrated by many beings in many cultures throughout the ages. Rudhyar further compares it to the power in a seed: the power to replicate and provide a pattern for the future growth of the generic plant.
This is the energetic principle around and permeating affirmations, meditation, chanting various mantras, the power of "positive thinking," and every principle offered in the movie on the not-so-secret "Secret." We do have the power to bring forth a demonstration from Spirit, as long as a) it is true for us, and b) we do not undermine our thoughtforms with doubt, negating rationalism, or interfering conscious or unconscious waveforms distracting us from our concentrations.
The process is 1) Concentration, 2) Meditation, and 3) Contemplation yielding A) Force Realization, B) Force Application, and C) Force Utilization. When directed wisely, this power to shape and direct energy can be used to heal cancers at great distances or mitigate potential "natural disasters," among other things. It all depends on what is visualized, what is affirmed, and the level of consciousness of the dreamer.
It is said the process of "precipitation" that such adepts as Christ, H.P. Blavatsky, Sri Yukteswar, Babaji, Appolonius of Tyana, and other venerable teachers of antiquity and modernity use to demonstrate "miracles" are just the wise use of nature to fulfill Her power to bring forth all forms in the right way and time. Nothing miraculous is ever contrary to Nature's laws. Rather, they are the fulfillment of the human potential, a great thing indeed if the chronicles of antiquity are to be believed.
We have a much greater future than we suspect, but we must organize into thoughtform building groups to bring forth a better world by negating the destructive thoughtforms that pervade our psychic atmosphere. Thoughtforms must be crafted with great precision if we are to bring forth the desired effect with a minimum of unintended consequences. And of course we must have faith in our power to bring forth desirable manifestations, if we just align with Spirit. Works here are the demonstration of our faith.
That is why we must seek our community, near and far, to find those in our Sangha whose faith in thoughtforms can harmoniously build with ours. Then synergy takes over, and the total is always more than the parts. Open to singing your song in just the right way and time in the larger global harmony, in concert with others in your "Spiritual Group," aka "Ray Group," and then experiment with potential thoughtforms you could develop together. The results over time will blow your mind and heal the Earth, as well as all the creatures and anything else in the path of the wave form.
A final note: we'll continue to explore this theme from time to time, since those of us who care for our world, humanity, the creatures and plants and Gaia Herself must at some point set aside our differences and create thoughtforms that will effect positive change, to whatever degree we are able. This will take 10,000 shapes so don't judge anything too quickly or harshly.
It took a few hundred years to poison this Earth, so it may take a decade or two to reverse the negative exploitive destructive thoughtforms that are rampant today. Still, the effort is worth our lives and "our sacred honor," since if we don't, we'll wake up on the other side someday and wonder why we didn't take advantage of our opportunity to create a better world for our children, grandchildren, and all sentient Beings to come.
(With thanks to those who inspired this post. You know who you are.)
© Copyright 2007 Robert Wilkinson

Robert:
Thank you again for yet another awesome and inspiring post. As the teens that I work with would say-"You Rock!"
Apropo of this time of 30 Pisces I intend and affirm that we are not "anti" anything or anyone, but rather "for" visualizing and creating this new era based on peace, justice, liberty, equality, and fraternity. I intend that these United States again truly becomes the land of the free and the home of the brave. I intend that everyone everywhere is brave enough to stop the killing and realize that there is only one of us here. I intend that everyone everywhere remembers that all sentient beings are our relatives. As my Native American friends here in the Black Hills of South Dakota say- "I don't pray TO the trees, rivers, and wild animals. I pray WITH them.
Mitakuye Oyasin (All My Relations)
dcu
Posted by: dcu | March 19, 2007 at 11:34 PM
LOVE THIS POST ! thanks for reminding us of our POWER and our ability to collectively change things...my daughter is singing a song called 'everybody's FREE' in the bath in the background as I type this! we certainly need to remember that NOW! and not feel limited to change things starting with thoughtforms to manifest our visions...THANKS Robert i am feeling empowered by your words...love and light
Posted by: giverny | March 19, 2007 at 11:59 PM
Hi dcu - I figured you and some others would groove on this particular "intersection between fate and free will." I second your emotion - may it take flight and land in the hearts of all who care for the One Life we ALL are together. We are the dreamers who will witness the end of the old ways that have been so destructive, and witnesses to the goodness that this One Life IS.
Hi giverny - Expect more to come. "Come on people now, smile on your brothers everybody get together and try to love one another right now..." Matter follows thought to the degree the wave form is true. May your light shine in your section of the world, and yield many good things.
Posted by: Robert | March 20, 2007 at 08:02 AM
Hello Robert,
During the last full moon/eclipse a wonderful event occured. An aniversary and cd release party for a favorite band took place. People came from all over the U.S. to dance, hug, laugh and make merry. Many of us felt we had reunited with our spiritual core. While many of us are unwilling to give up political involvement, an emerging realization that "we can't fix what's broken with something still broken" (credit to the band leader) informs us to become more spiritually involved with our lives and use that to inform our actions. I could write so much more on this but in essence I feel that within that group would be my core "Ray Group". Thanks for the impetus to act further and confirmation that the time is right.
Posted by: Kristin | March 20, 2007 at 09:24 AM
Robert, thank you for giving me a succinct reason why many of the new-age “positive thinking” lectures do not work for everyone. Not everyone is on the particular path of creating just by wishing something into being. Some people need the "mysteries", the magic, or a communion with higher beings. This is not to say that the positive thinking "gurus" are wrong. Positive thinking does work, but a thirty-second technique or an affirmation alone is not the only way for everyone. I've tried to understand this, and you have helped.
Your statement "as long as, it is true for us" is so important. I’ve watched people struggling to demonstrate or manifest something, and they become very frustrated when it doesn’t appear in a short time. The principles of teachings such as “The Secret” make people feel guilty for not manifesting everything they want. Don’t you think the natal chart gives a clue as to why they aren’t demonstrating easily? Maybe they aren’t supposed to have something, or at least manifest it without the proper focus or work. Do the transits “in the sky” make a difference as well?
You say, "Thoughtforms must be crafted with great precision if we are to bring forth the desired effect with a minimum of unintended consequences." I guess it is easy to forget that when attempting to create or manifest.
Please continue your thoughts on creation, manifestation. It's more than Cosmic Ordering a parking place, a car or a home (although those things are important). You have great things to say, and I look forward to more insights.
One thing I don't understand in many of the New Age teachings is the separation from others. I know we each have our own purpose, but to ignore what's going on in the world is puzzling to me. Should I forget that children are starving in Africa because they have their own purpose or search for joy? Am I supposed to mind my own business, concentrate on my own life, and forget about them? What does turn the other cheek truly mean in regards to war?
Sorry, I'm just rambling now, but you've made me believe we do make a difference.
Thanks Again
Posted by: Susan | March 20, 2007 at 09:34 AM
Thanks for this, Robert. Is Pisces 30 the same as Aries 0 (Aries Point)?
Thank you for providing some hope that all may not be lost for the world after all!
Posted by: hitchhiker72 | March 20, 2007 at 12:33 PM
Sounds like a recipe for the future survival of planet earth.
:-)
Posted by: Juliet | March 20, 2007 at 12:40 PM
Hey Robert,
I've been reading on this site for awhile now, and I just want to say that I love it. I think it's one of the best sites on the internet, certainly that I've ever found. I think your articles are really insightful and I've been trying to teach myself astrology so this site has helped a lot. I believe strongly in the vast power of the mind. Just simple things like how two people can be thinking the exact same thing at the same time when it is on a completly unrelated subject. So if that's the power of the mind when you are not actively training it.. it's truley amazing. I think that everybody is capable of so much more than they realize. But what I'm wondering: Are they any books you can recommend on this subject and also on astrology? I am reading some of Robert Hand's books and I think they're amazing. I also have neptune sextile uranus in my chart right now, so I think it's an excellent time to start studying this.
Posted by: Kristina | March 20, 2007 at 12:53 PM
Hi Kristin - Sounds like you have found some members of your group; look for synergistic energies that assist and uplift each other while opening new opportunities to learn and make the true, good, and beautiful manifest. I have a similar group of friends and allies spread out all over the world, and the group dynamics are the same. And of course, the best way to fight evil is to make progress in the good, and celebrate that we are Spirits in the material world, to quote another enlightened musician.
Hi Susan - Yes, it seems that the 10,000 pound elephant in the corner requires us to remember we cannot simply wish something into existence that has nothing to do with our existence. That said, the entire process deals with "goal fitness," or becoming fit to manifest some goal that is true for our potential, individually and collectively. And of course, with persistence we may even succeed in manifesting some version of our affirmation, but the consequences could be disastrous if we haven't taken into account a larger view of cause and effect. I've seen it happen too many times not to mention that we better be ready to deal with whatever shows up that we may not have anticipated.
The natal chart shows our potential, so if it's not in our hologram, it probably won't manifest, no matter how hard we try. Yes, transits matter big time, since everything has its season of manifestation, objective and subjective. And of course, you hit on what is probably the greatest obstacle to human progress, what The Tibetan calls "the heresy of separateness." It's the source of all war, all frustration, all alienation, all fear, all hatred, and every other ill that plagues humankind.
We turn away from human suffering at our own risk, as we become less than human when we do, regardless of what press releases we choose to believe about ourselves and any supposed "spirituality." And of course, there are departments of labor, and we're not necessarily fit to do all of them, but we can find our zone of effectiveness in lessening human suffering if we but look. And "turning the other cheek" does not mean powerlessness and indifference. It means being our higher Self regardless of the barbaric behaviors confronting us.
Hi hitchhiker72 - Yes, but there is no symbol for zero. That's why 0 degrees + any minutes = One degree of whatever, like our first year of life isn't when we're one, it's before we're one. One marks the end of the year. One marks the end of the degree. I hope this explains it. As for hope, "Something's lost, and something's gained, in living every day...." Whether a glass is half full or half empty is in the eye of the beholder.
Hi Juliet - Well, we have powers latent within that most have never dreamed of, and if any number of us all created a thoughtform together, there's no telling how powerful the effects would be! Aum Namah Shivaya!!
Hi Kristina - I love Robert Hand's work, even if sometimes he's a bit grim on his interpretations of "frictional" transits. I always recommend Grant Lewi's "Astrology for the Millions" as well as Dane Rudhyar's "Astrology of Personality" if you want to enter the world of non-fatalistic, humanistic astrology. I can also recommend some venerable and legit metaphysical books as starting points to greater awareness if you're interested. Email me via the contact link on the left side.
As far as I know, there isn't much out there that combines what we're speaking of here with astrology. Some of the other blogs listed on my sidebar may address some of it from time to time, but this is practical metaphysics, something I've studied and practiced for over 30 years. That's why you get it here. Thanks for your praise of my site and the articles. The mind is capable of things waaaay outside of most people's conception, and we are less separate and powerless than most imagine. Training is everything. And yes, it is a great time for you to be studying this.
Posted by: Robert | March 20, 2007 at 06:13 PM
Beautiful..................
ONE Love......... D. } -----*
Posted by: DianatheHuntress | March 21, 2007 at 01:27 AM
Hi Robert,
I have to agree with you in regards to Robert Hand. I have used my Planets in Transit that it has split in two. Have you read what he says about Saturn conjunct Pluto? This is a major aspect I am dealing with now with Saturn squaring both my Jupiter and Mars.
In July, Saturn will finally conjunct my Sun. I have heard different opinions from a sneeze to full-blown pneumonia.
The last time Saturn conjuncted my Sun in the exact degree, I left my husband.
Care to comment?
Peace,
Helen
Posted by: Helen | March 21, 2007 at 02:30 AM
Hello Robert,
How about a Thoughtform Experiment?
You suggest something positive and good for the planet, and anyone interested will try to focus on and manifest it on a particular day and time (most conducive to this) that you designate.
What do you think?
Juliet :-)
Posted by: Juliet | March 21, 2007 at 04:28 PM
Hi DianatheHuntress - Thanks. One life, one light, one love indeed.
Hi Helen - Well, I would never put down a great astrologer, as his work is excellent. We all have our issues with how we express things (spoken as a true Aries with Sun, Mars, and Mercury conjunct!) Even if they are awesomely not afflicted, it still isn't easy to express myself in ways that everyone likes and understands. ;-) But then again, in the words of the old gospel, "You can't please everyone so you better please yourself..."
Yes, I've read everything Hand has said about negative aspects, and I prefer to regard Saturn conj Pluto as crystalizing one's absolute power of self-purification according to Shivaic principles. Having it rising trine my Sun and Mars I understand that it can be one of the most powerful forces for good in our lives, and with Saturn, indicator of Dharma, coming to visit the "Lord of the Underworld" in us, it could mean massive wreckage or the perfection of our ability to be our innermost and outermost Divinity in a form the world WILL recognize (whether it wants to or not!) Saturn square your Mars and Jupiter forces you to cut back on some things, expand others thoughtfully, not hold antagonisms under too tight a leash, and be Aquarian.
Saturn on the Sun transit is best described by Grant Lewi in "Astrology for the Millions." It is a time when you get the results of what you've worked for. Saturn on my Sun brought major endings and beginnings, which as I look back these 10 years brought me nothing but good. And I truly mean that. The changes of that time have led me to a greater life and love than I could have ever imagined before then. What it took away was a struggle and burden, including a marriage that had ended years before, and left me free to be my light. It's really a great transit, even if it brings hard realities into focus.
Hi Juliet - Wellwellwell. It seems as though you win the prize for sussing out my hidden agenda. We definitely can do a "Thoughtform Experiment." I believe we can brainstorm for something perfectly appropriate, something that could be accomplished, definitely measurable, and not in violation of the Prime Directive. I'm open to suggestions, and am considering some things that haven't quite taken shape yet. And yes, I can pick a time astrologically when we can focus, in whatever time zone we're in, on the objective. I believe we should start with something "non grandiose" since that sort of glamour either a) fails (and therefore discourages) or b) succeeds (and therefore encourages a false sense of ego). Pride is one of the final fetters to liberation, if we are to believe some venerable works of antiquity. So let's consider this an open forum to discuss possible experiments, open the imagination to making it playful and effective, and we'll do the first one when the Moon is well aspected during one of the coming Grand Fire Trines. Thanks for picking up on a possibility.
Posted by: Robert | March 21, 2007 at 05:58 PM
The possibility sounds unlimited. I really like the idea of this positive thoughtform within our global community here with the right focus and intent.
I remind myself often that we are all just "hangling". All of us get to hang out on this beautiful planet while we are really just hanging by a thread.
Happy Vernal Equinox!
Vicki
Posted by: Vicki Evans | March 21, 2007 at 10:18 PM
Hello again,
One more time I get to explain "hangling"; in my previous post I typed too fast. Hangling is a word I said by accident and it made sense when talking about our existence in this lifetime with a dear friend.
"hangling" - 'hanging' out on this planet earth while we are really just 'dangling' by a thread.
We need to remind ourselves that we are all the same and all are one and our egos don't even matter and at the same time, we should enjoy the ride.
And Juliet, I really liked what you wrote in your posts.
Vicki
Posted by: Vicki | March 21, 2007 at 10:51 PM
Hello Robert,
I'm one of the folks who visit here most everyday.Always appreciate your take on current happenings though I cant say I always understand the astrology. Feels like reading it helps just to let your words flow thru my brain.I am writing,painting, sculpting,working,playing & growing with high fire.
Doing my being indeed.Loved this post xspecially,thanx for the reminder that we are powerful to affect positive change! PLS consider me "on the boat" for any thought form adventures. Would love to talk,hangle around,get a reading maybe this summer in LA.figure you wont come anywhere near TX whilst stuff is blooming.Howdies to Vicki & dcu. Love, el BB
Posted by: el BB | March 22, 2007 at 06:50 AM
Hi Vicki - "Hangling" indeed! I gather our entire beautiful world looks like a jewel hanging by a thread in all-space when seen from a space shuttle. And you're right about a lot not mattering, and enjoying the ride, since we never know what today will bring, even less tomorrow, except the results of well-crafted thoughtforms.
Hi el BB - Though a long time visitor, consider this a formal welcome to Professor Robert's cantina. Glad you can let the images slip through the mindstream without clutching at unfamiliar terms. As one of the greatest Libras of all time wrote, "Turn off your mind, relax and float down stream, It is not dying, It is not dying... Lay down all thought Surrender to the void, It is shining, It is shining..." Will definitely be at one in the ether when it's time to play with constructive thoughtforms. Actually, I love Texas in the Spring with the wildflowers, and may actually have the time to get there in future years, but for now, other things and places beckon. As for coming to LA, we'll need to coordinate, since my schedule is stacking up like planes over LAX. And it would be good to see you. Tell Captain Cap and the twirlybirds hi for me.
Posted by: Robert | March 22, 2007 at 08:02 AM
Ok Robert she is a Pisces and I can't detach!! She looked at me in that...hypnotic-sleepy...Pisces woman way...now I can barely concentrate on anything else. I dated one Pisces years ago and my heart still aches in thought of her. I have been smart about this area of my life for years. Now I can't think intellectually at all. And it isn't fun being me right now.
So I don't know what to do. I have to live and work!
Please my friends, I need good vibes, I'll owe ya. And Robert I need simple advice. She is like taking up all of my time and I barely know her so...oh my goodness I don't know.
And Pisces people you are truly beautiful sweethearts.
Love,
Don.
Posted by: Don | March 22, 2007 at 09:23 PM
Hi Robert,
This is a great post. Thanks. I'm trying to write a young adult sci fi story right now and been struggling to imagineer a positive future without falling into old cliches or being overwhelmed by the 'destructive thought forms that pervade our psychic atmosphere.' The idea that we can build a better world by collectively imagining it and putting energy into our mental creation is wonderful. I'll think on this long and hard and try and figure out ways to represent it in fiction.
Thanks so much for the inspiration.
Posted by: sue | March 22, 2007 at 10:25 PM
Hi Don - Good to hear from you. You would be attracted to a Pisces, but as a Scorpio you'll be learning how to attach and detach with greater self control this entire lifetime so your energies don't run away with you. You probably need time with her AND time alone, not obsessing on things, people, what you want, what you don't have, etc., etc., etc. In any case, glad you're around. Find the balance between self and non-self, work and play, introspection and extroversion, and back off from wanting to "fire all of your guns at once and explode into space." You may have been "Born to be Wild," but it's not a sustainable lifestyle - I know, since when younger I tried! ;-) And of course you have the good vibes and affection of everyone here. I believe I can say that, given past comments directed your way.
Hi sue - You're welcome. Why not have each know a piece of the puzzle, but have to quest to find it before they use it together. That's not a cliche - that's life (and something Dickens used most effectively)! Wend it separately, weave it together, or some such thing.
Posted by: Robert | March 23, 2007 at 07:44 AM
Hi Robert,
Can you tell anything about (my) natal sun being 29,46 pisces? I've only found some articles about 'anaretic degrees' on the net - not very helpfull, since i'm an amateur in astrology...
Also have mercury, mars, chiron on 7th degree pisces opp pluto and scorpio ascendant conjunct neptune...
Thx, Tom
Posted by: Mrcina | March 23, 2007 at 09:05 AM
Hi Tom - The Sun is the Illumination principle within and without. It is the Light we respond to and radiate from our Heart, the vitality of our Spiritual Core. What sign we have it in shows the types of ways we are Illuminated. For example, you are illuminated and illuminating when you do closure rituals, or use forgiveness and compassion in all-encompassing ways. You also "see the light" through the consequences of overstaying your welcome, procrastination, and mastering the finesse, among many other Pisces traits.
The entire article is about 30 Pisces. It's the final degree of the 360 span we call "reality" from pure raw emergent "be-ness" (Aries) to final, all-encompassing "all-ness" (Pisces). Your Sun is at the end of the end, the point before the launch of a new world. Though you have inherent Pisces traits, most of your life you've been an Aries by progression, and since you're over 30 your progressed Sun is already well into Taurus. And Taurus is good for your Pisces-Virgo opposition with Scorpio rising, as it makes a rectangle. You can turn every challenge into multiple productivities, understandings, and awarenesses if you don't get suckered into power struggles you don't need. Be aware of how much energy you're devoting to any given thing at any time, and don't exhaust yourself trying to march to another's drumbeat.
Posted by: Robert | March 23, 2007 at 09:22 AM
An idea for your thoughtform experiment -- a modified tonglen technique:
"Everyone imagines peace as they think others would experience it.
So for as long as you can, you imagine what it feels like like be a starving child, a grieving parent, the road rager in front of them, a bird flying by, a person walking by the window. And you then imagine what peace for that person would feel like. For the starving child - a full belly, for the road rager -- someone to offer a smile or shoulder to cry on."
In most of our day-to-day world, we are so involved in our own little troubles that we take everything personally when, in fact, the perpertrator is probably just as involved in their own little world and cosmically bumped up against us.
Similar to the "pay-it-forwrad" principle, if we are nice to the road-rager in front of us then maybe they won't be so angry and make that nasty phone call which will save a person's job which puts food on the table so the child doesn't starve. That's why I like to do the tonglen technique. Sitting quietly and contemplating other beings and their troubles in the quiet of my home makes it easier to "act" instead of "react" when out in the thick of living. And if I can be more peaceful and compassionate in more areas of my own life, then maybe the world will be more peaceful and compassionate.
Posted by: Sonja | March 23, 2007 at 12:18 PM
Beautiful, Sonja!
I love it.... what if we all just simply 'imagined'................
what effect could be produced?
Way Cool!
Posted by: DianatheHuntress | March 23, 2007 at 01:40 PM
Hello Robert,
How about something for Earth Day 2007? The thoughts are still forming (tee hee). I'll get back to the forum this weekend.
Juliet :-)
Posted by: Juliet | March 23, 2007 at 04:37 PM