The Lunar Nodes in Astrology Pt. 2 - How Do The North and South Nodes Work In the Signs and Houses in our Charts?

by Robert Wilkinson

Following up on yesterday's article on what the North and South Node of the Moon really are, and how they manifest, today we examine ways to apply their energies in our charts. While not listing all possible combinations, by applying the examples offered here you can change the keywords for the signs and houses appropriate to your chart and come to a whole new approach to these very important significators of growth, change, and release in our chart.

As I noted yesterday, the sign of the North Node shows the quality of your line of greatest evolutionary development; the sign of the South Node shows the quality of your line of least resistance. North Node efforts are often difficult, whereas the South Node patterns are familiar, and therefore usually easy. One is in-take, one is out-flow, and we are told that both assist the mechanics of our personal line of greatest evolutionary development.

In a birth chart, the signs of the Nodes show the quality of the polarity you’re learning how to balance between absorption and release, effort and “cruise-control.” You build through the sign of the NN, let go through the sign of the SN. For example, if you have NN in Pisces/SN in Virgo, you’re learning to be compassionate this life, letting go of criticism and worry. It’s harder to be intuitive, but will yield great dividends to the degree you develop it; it’s easy to get focused on minute details, rationalizations, and there is a natural pull to be of service to others in practical ways.

Another example: If you have a North Node in Scorpio/South Node in Taurus, it’s easy to go for what’s comfortable, more difficult to develop the ability to go deeply into things. With this position, development is found through seeing losses as opportunities to learn recycling, regeneration, probing and detecting unknown things. It’s also good for exploring things hidden below the surface, whether of the Earth or the personality. A simple way to view it is if Taurus is gain and Scorpio is loss, then with NN in Scorpio and SN in Taurus you learn more from your losses than your gains. It’s easier to accumulate, whether ideas, things, or whatever; harder, but better for your development to learn to let go of whatever voluntarily.

The house of the North Node shows the life activities where you will grow in the way of the sign. The house of the South Node shows life affairs where you will probably find yourself doing what you already know but may not feel like you're making much progress. It could also be where you demonstrate what you have grown into, or where you're bogged down by too much repetitive familiarity.

For example, if you have NN in the 4th house and SN in the 10th, it’s easier to be public, more challenging to be obscure, easier to focus on profession, less so to focus on family. And of course, growth and development this life will be found in learning about family, home, land, early home life, all 4th house affairs. Easy to take responsibility, but better to learn about caring for self and others. Reversing this, I have found people with SN in the 4th are often bogged down by family affairs, issues, and concerns that prevent them from growing and developing, which would be found in professional responsibilities and taking charge in worldly affairs if NN is in the 10th.

If the NN is in the 8th house, and SN in the 2nd, it works much like having the NN in Scorpio and SN in Taurus. However, if NN is in the 2nd and SN is in the 8th, then it’s more like NN in Taurus and SN in Scorpio, except that the signs are the qualities with which we approach the affairs of the houses in question. The signs are our biases; the houses are the arenas of life where we do our sign expression.

So someone with NN in Scorpio in the 2nd/SN in Taurus in the 8th would learn by seeing the ever-transforming nature of accumulations while letting go of inert forms. This position would benefit through shared values and resources and seeing changing social values as a magnetic dance of attraction-repulsion, while being easy and pleasant when called upon to let go of old forms, things, money, etc. NN in the 2nd definitely shows growth through attracting what is needed to self; in Scorpio, through focus and concentration and releasing old forms while holding on to the essence. Someone with this position would make a great “dowser,” finding water, oil, or gold within the Earth. And yes, there would be losses, but only of that which is no longer true or needed. Let go of comfort, and embrace the mystery.

In another example, where the Nodal axis is transiting in the chart, it works like it would natally, except it moves backwards through the houses of your chart. Therefore, it exerts a direct house influence for approximately 18 months as well as for some time after, since we get many eclipses in that span of time. I believe it reveals its mystery every time the transiting Moon makes aspects to the transiting Nodes, as well as when the transiting Nodal axis makes aspects to our natal or progressed Moon. Wherever the axis is transiting in our charts is where we are growing and releasing, being pulled to demonstrate that growth pattern across time.

The Nodes may not be planets, but they provide a means to embrace a line of growth that ultimately will prove profitable to you, while seeing what is natural and easy for you to show your world of what you have developed. The North Node is what you’re here to take in; the South Node what you’re here to demonstrate and release. Let your imagination show you how you're developing by sign, in whichever life arena (house) is emphasized.

(This incorporates elements of an article originally published April 14, 2006)

© Copyright 2007 Robert Wilkinson

Comments

[Larissa Pond]

Robert, what can you briefly tell me about my NN in 12 house in Cancer, and SN in 6 house in Capricorn, it also has "06" & "03" in both houses. Does it have anything to do with prenatal astrology, when my mom was pregnant there were two eclipses; Lunar in Cancer and Solar in Carpricorn. Thank you.

[Robert]

Hi Larissa - Everyone has two eclipses occur when they are in the womb, so no worries there. NN in 12 in Cancer shows you need to learn how to take care of yourself by being sensitive to your karmic "movie," see how you're motivated to care for yourself and others, and release being hyper-responsible and needing always to work or at the least adjust yourself to others' rules and authority. Find that which nutures you and care about what motivates you, and let go of worrying about what's proper or not.

[Aditya]

Hi Robert, My NN is in Sagittarius 1st House and SN is in Gemini 7th House. I have seen that i already go after what I want. However my SN in 7th house makes my close family feel i am selfish and i find that whatever i do, I end up having to explain myself in full detail. I also feel that they secretly think that I don't know what I am doing and will fail. Though I know I am doing the right thing for my family. I just wish I didn't have to convince them and giving them every detail of my work. After reading your article i can see that this will change for the better after this solar eclipse.
Just one question for you. How do I bring the sagittarius qualities in going after what I want and projecting my personality. Many thanks and Namaskar

[Lori L]

Hi Robert....another awesome article and very informative. I'm just curious if you could just give me a little insight to my specific Nodes - My NN is Taurus 19 degrees in my 7th house and my SN is in Scorpio 16 degrees in my 1st house - in your article you explain these signs but exact opposite of mine. Thanks for any input and bless you for all your help.

[Robert]

Hi Aditya - With SN in Gemini in the 7th, DON'T get lost trying to explain yourself to others, except maybe to point out the bigger picture without getting lost in the 10,000 things. No one has to explain things past a certain point to those who cannot or will not come part way to understanding. I would think you can bring the Sag qualities into your life by cultivating the spiritual view, the abstract mind, getting advanced education (formally and informally) and above all, learn how to bring humor and breadth of vision to every interaction.

Hi Lori - First thing, the Nodes can never be at different degrees from each other. They are an axis. So either they are at 16 or 19 degrees, but not both. Your line of greatest development is in equal relationships, your line of least resistance is to let the pressure build within yourself. Go for enjoyable, straightforward, pleasant relationships with your equals, and find appropriate ways to discharge the internal pressures. Let go of internal power struggles, or ancient stuck feelings that only get you bogged down. Learn to simplify, enjoy, and relax more. See what brings contentment rather than dissatisfaction. Be gentle with others, and attract those who are gentle with you.

[Lori L]

Thanks Robert...you are right they are both 19 degrees - little typo ;o)

[Carson]

Robert,

Wonderfully insightful as always - always felt the challenges of tackling the highest evolutionary growth. Quick question: on the chart I have it lists Mean node (27Vir33) and True Node (26Vir43) - would those be referring to the South or the North node. All I can say is that I am a heavy Virgo and these eclipses and the coming Saturn return are and will be shifting some deep elements of Being. Much appreciated my friend.

All the best and peace until,

Carson

[Marcie]

My NN is in my 4th house and my SN in my 10th house, but they're both in retrograde on my natal chart.

What effect does that have? I can't find any information about Nodes in retrograde.

Thanks a bunch!

[ROBYN]

i have my n. node in libra, in the succedent 5th house, and the s. node in aries in the succedent 11th house. which according to you is the same as having nn in leo and sn in aquairius. but they are cardinal signs in fixed houses.

If i've done my homework that means i would take in aspects of steadiness and reliability regarding love affairs, procreation, children, creative expression, luck and speculation. and that i should demonstrate or release my steadiness and reliability with friends, clubs, organizations, associations, goals, hopes, and wishes.

which in a weird way is kinda the picture. still a bit foggy on translation though..

[Me]

Hi Robert,

would you consider the Mean Node or the True Node to be more important? I ask, because in my chart the Mean Node and the True Node are in two different signs.

[sunshine]

Hello Robert,

Always very interesting and insightful. I'm virgo, my NN is in aquarius in the 8th house, didn't find information on my SN. Things are going wild in my life at this moment, any information that can bring some light on the situation is most welcome.

Many thanks.

[michele]

hey robert,
should see u @ your talks coming up.
thanx for info on this.

what is your view of the nodes being Karmic/dharmic more actually in nature???

is the south node something we have already lived, experienced and learned, and north where we are headed this lifetime, so to speak/

also, are we to integrate the 2; or, do we just grow/go toward the north??

i am just wondering if there is a balance here-do we have to conscously balance? or, is the balance innate
b/c of past life experience.

thanx again... :))

peace and light

m

[Robert]

Hi Carson - The Nodes vary in speed, and are not "constant" so there's a Mean Node and True Node. Doesn't really much matter from one point of view. I've observed over the years that both of mine work simultaneously. You may be able to feel your way through things in the future that make your existence more efficient. Saturn will show the way to structure a long-term being satisfactory to who you are and what you've done. Your experience will be your power. Yew bet.

Hi Marcie - The Nodes are almost always retrograde, due to geophysical mechanics. Even when the ephemeris shows them as forward, it's not much. I suspect it's the fluctuations in the field, which could mean a temporary re-tracing of ground already covered, which is what the phenomena of RX-Direct motion really is. Either we've moving into unknown territory, or taking a new look with a different pace of cognition what we've already been through.

Hi ROBYN - It's not exactly the same; it's about energy symbols taking forms significant to you. The signs are qualities, while the houses are life areas. Your development is in a balanced approach to creativity, children, self-expression, things that bring out your spontaneity. Be more the artist! Express your Libra through your 5th house affairs. As for the SN, you're letting go of being blunt and impulsive in friendships and running toward goals and ambitions without sufficient staying power. Eventually you'll attract pioneering, direct, and self-sufficient Electric people who will help you express your 11th house Libra tendencies.

Hi Me - That's a very rare occurrence. Develop both qualities. Then you'll observe either the best of both, or know which one is the dominant influence.

Hi sunshine - Well, Saturn is in your Solar 12th, always a time of endings, and harvesting wisdom from long term experience. Expect more when Saturn moves into Virgo this Autumn, which will bring you results of what you've worked for and deserve. There will be endings but you'll move into being the Captain of your Ship of Fate. And your South Node is in Leo in the 2nd. You'll grow through impersonality and genuine friendliness, and have more to learn from your losses than your gains. Neptune is spiritualizing your evolutionary magnet; express it through your loving, creative, playful, and heartfelt self. And stop taking anything personally.

Hi Michele - Figured I'd tack this on. Interesting take on Karma/Dharma and Nodal association. I'll have to ponder that one. Yes, the SN is "something we have already lived, experienced and learned, and north where we are headed this lifetime, so to speak." Even though it may take a strange shape or two! No, we have to get our SN functioning as the perfect expression of our NN growth pattern, releasing or demonstrating as needed, just not devoting energy to SN stuff for its own sake. Not balancing, so much as inbreathing, outbreathing, intake, outflow.

[michele]

WOW..WOW....

this just hit me!!! had to read & re-read a couple of times....
you state "have to sn functioning as the perfect expression of our nn growth pattern..."
this expresses a missing link for me, and clears some stuff up...with the nn in libra and sn in aries...
i can see why the pioneering, starting up, expressing and moving out......i thought that this was just internal, innate, or integrated within. this is an ah ha moment for me :)
there has to be functioning of this as a perfect expression of nn growth pattern--got to contemplate this a bit. this has air of expansion and re-direction of how one operates to this....

ok. you have a think on the karma/dharma.... :))

i am going to feel this out for awhile. i feel i have not been conscious this. this point of view brings in a different consciousness

a ho

[DianatheHuntress]

Hi Michele... thanks for getting 'my drift' re: The Dragon..... that's why the ancients considered it 'the path of fortune'...... it's all good....... :-} ------

[jayla]

hey,

wondering...what's the significance of the transiting nodes being exactly opposite to where they were at birth? i'm a virgo NN-pisces SN (with a bunch of planets in virgo, and sun-venus-NN conjunction forchrissakes) so that's what i'm experiencing now. streeessss. more than that, a feeling of being at the mercy of random forces outside myself to a larger extent than usual. does that make sense?

[michele]

hey diana
knew about the nn being the dragon head, and sn the tail....
however, i just GOT it..got the powerful implications of this. like you stated "the path of fortune" --i am just now seeing & feeling how they are really together, really one, actually. so, with this new perspective it is a path of fortune. some reason i thought of them as "separate" or, to be integrated. but i like robert's descript of 'full function/expression....want to read up on this more, actually. so, if you know of any material/info.
thanx for a bit of a piece of the puzzle so to speak. :)

[kiwa]

hi Robert

how would you interpret Venus in Virgo conjunct south node in the 5th house? this has always been a conundrum to me...
how could that manifest in the most positive sense, especially in relationships?
thank you so much....

[DianatheHuntress]

Michele... really appreciate your vision... there are so many rich and diverse ways to interpret the stars, and I have always viewed the natal chart as a 'karmic blueprint'... some really wonderful inspirations for me have been Dane Rudhyar, Barbara Hand Clow, Tibetan Shamanic Qigong (Qi Dao), The Tao, The Medicine Wheel (our Native wisdom), and of course,our illustrious mentor and kind friend, Robert! One COOL cat..... *:-)

The chart works as whole mandala, and gives us an awesome spiritual tool for knowing ourselves in the truest light..... I feel so blessed to have been given the 'moon and the stars'!... (and the knowledge of The Dragon, however painful it may be to step over those scales sometimes)!

Enjoy the Mystery... (a ho and viva Crazy Horse!)....
Diana :-} ----- *

[cloudland]

I have been trying to think how the nodes are working in my life. My North node is in the 4th house in Taurus. My family life has always been fraught- both when I was a child and now as a parent of children who have autism. It has certainly been challenging. My partner died some three years ago and I wonder whether this is part of the challenges of a 4th house Node as well. I definitely feel more comfortable with scorpionic qualities (and that has been detrimental to me at times I think) but not with 10th house issues. In fact launching some kind of career is a challenge I have not yet met successfully. Thank you for these articles they are making me think of things in a different way.

[Robert]

Hi Jayla - The transiting nodes oppose their natal positions every 18 years starting around 9. I'll probably do another post addressing that, since there's a lot of interest and it's a common question over the years. The sense of being at the mercy of random forces outside you may be you sensing the Uranus transit (or Pluto, depending!) relative to your natal planets. Also remember that 14-18 degrees of Virgo are affected by The Grand Irrationality. You can read more in the recent "Spiritual Astrology" article at the link.

Hi Kiwa - I would say be more compassionate in a larger view, learn from your friends' a)humanitarianism b)self-deceptions c)sense of victimizaton d)forgiveness practices (fill in more Pisces keywords at your leisure!) and then demonstrate it as affectionate practical service creatively expressed. With that position you probably worry too much, and have some rules that don't serve your spontaneity. Go for larger goals and ambitions, let a lot go by without being critical, worried, or stuck in a narrow self-expression - just let go in silence. And it does give you very discerning tastes and a precisely tuned aesthetic sense.

Hi cloudland - First, let me express my condolences at the early loss of your partner. Parenting is always tougher when there's only one there trying to do EVERYTHING for the little ones. Your loss may have associations with Saturn in Cancer. With your Nodes, you are growing into being a steady rock of stability at the foundation of your being. SN in 10th often suffers from strange timing issues professionally, and with Scorpio the sign expressed, you no doubt are seen as someone who has lost much and is very resilient. Probably energetically misunderstood when younger. Your family life is primarily governed by planets in the 4th, the ruler of the 4th (it may or may not be the sign of the IC), and aspects to the ruler of the 4th, as well as the Moon, of course. It may be that your home, family, or land have some connection to a possible career, though of course the ruler of the 10th and planets there are paramount. And since our careers are often determined by jobs we've trained for that lead to us launching our own thing, the 6th house can lead to a profession after we do something enough.

TO ALL ASTROLOGERS: The reasoning is that the 6th house is the 9th house of the 10th, thus indicating the future of that arena. Practical tasking and self-adjustments (6th house) are the future preparation for the public mastery of our flowering (10th). In this approach many things can be understood.

[ROBYN]

wow.
ha, i don't know how much more of an artist i can become (i'm a graphic designer with an art degree already)!
you are correct in your assessment, i'm trying to jump ship and move ~ find a new job but its hard. by what your telling me what i could be moving toward is something that can't/doesn't have the security that i am used to but that, eventually, i will meet people who will help me express my intentions.

thanks~

Robyn

bring on the electricity!

[Wendall]

My chart shows True Node at 1Sco29 in the 4th house. Is this my north node or south node? Thank you. Namaste.

[Callie]

Hi Robert,

I have my NN in Gemini in the 11th house, SN in Sag in the 5th (conjunct my moon) and was wondering where this means I should be heading (as I'm not that familiar with Gemini/11th house, most of my planets are 4th-9th houses) and how the moon comes into play? Also, I've read that the NN is exalted in Gemini/SN exalted in Sag, and was wondering how this plays out as an influence? And should we look at our transiting NN/SN? if so, mine is currently in Pisces/Virgo, the NN conjunct Chiron and Saturn with Uranus transiting through there as well and very close to the upcoming eclipse. If we do look at the transiting nodes, how does this relate to the idea of something we have already lived, experienced and learned, and where we are headed this lifetime, and should we look at it in relation to the nodes in our natal chart?

I love all your writings and feedback and greatly appreciate all the time you put into this.

[Don]

My South Node is in Pisces and my earnership house so does that mean that I'll be relatively poor my entire life unless I learn to be an accountant? Poor, suffering, exhausted, and holding on by a thread.

Don.

[Robert]

Hi Robyn - Glad I'm on target with the artistic focus! NN in Libra in the 5th is great for a graphic designer. Play, create, find your enthusiasm, and a balanced rhythmic way to express it in bursts of direct action within a larger group work. And may you get all the electricity you need to light up your Higher life.

Hi Wendall - Usually the listing of the True Node is the North Node, which means your SN is 1 degree 29 minutes Taurus, a degree of "cosmic visitation." Your line of greatest development is through surrendering to deeper and higher feelings after a widening of experience. Go for deeper connectedness with all that is, pierce through forms, and never play too much to your comfort loving side.

Hi Callie - It shows a tremendous karma to express through children and/or art as a result of building many faceted understandings of groups, friends, and ambitions. Geminis will help you adapt within a larger social whole. Exaltations are said to be the signs of greatest growth for whatever is exalted there, like Mars is exalted in Capricorn since Mars needs the organization and structured discipline of Capricorn to do its best. Not quite sure what you're driving at with the transiting nodes. Everyone now has Uranus conjunct NN transiting through Pisces in their birth chart, showing the ongoing evolutionary pull. Transiting Chiron is now 14 Aquarius so not sure what "NN conjunct Chiron and Saturn" means. The NN and SN are always close to the Sun and Moon in any eclipse, as that's what causes the eclipse. The natal nodes show the birth line of evolutionary development and release; the transiting nodes show what's up at present. And of course, you're most welcome.

Hi Don - I also have SN in the 2nd, so no, one is not doomed to poverty by that. It shows that we learn more from what we give up than from what we hold on to. More from regeneration, less from homeostasis. We demonstrate our growth by what we attract, and by releasing old value systems can come to a useful inbreathing and outbreathing of resources, receiving exactly what's right for us in a moment, releasing exactly what we need to whenever we need to. And yes, with NN in Virgo in 8th, you'd make a great accountant! Or public administrator in areas of social value, like public health. SN in Pisces makes for drifting and illusions of suffering that don't serve the need to work, as indicated by NN in Virgo. Keep it all grounded and practical, and be willing to do the detail work to let go of ghosts of the past.

[cloudland]

Thankyou for your comments Robert. I do not have a very deep understanding of astrology but you have given me some things to ponder and study further. Saturn was in aspect to my N Node at the time I spoke of as well so this gives me further pause for thought. Thanks once again.

[Robert]

Hi cloudland - Not having a "deep understanding" is okay, since if you want something more, you can always pursue it. Glad I can help you make sense of what at times is an overwhelming amount of information. Or so it was when I started back in the early 70s. Probably Saturn was extremely important, as well as any eclipses that happened before the loss. No one ever checks out before they're supposed to, so remember that your partner's death marked the end of their work here, and the beginning of you learning more about unconditional love. Though difficult, it's probably expanded your consciousness and heart strength more than you could have ever imagined. And of course you are most welcome. Thanks for checking in.

[victoria]

Robert,
I have an aquarius moon/north node in the 10th, capricorn ruling that 10th house/MC pluto in leo in the 5th.

The north node/moon are really close to chiron in capricorn which is conjunct the MC,

opposing uranaus in cancer in the 4th conjunct the IC.

so the moon and the north node are renting from the capricorn landlord of the 10th/mc.

I just read somewhere that chiron in the 10th is self undoing, and if it's that close to aquarian moon/north node that the"self-undoing" become part of my career stuff.
Is the self undoing part of the expanding, learning aspect of the North node?

Geeeez, does this make sense?

Thanks,
Victoria

[Robert]

Hi victoria - Chiron is NOT associated with "self undoing." It is that which heals us by our accepting a quest connected with a wound. Moon in Aquarius conjunct NN in the 10th is very favorable. 10th is the career house, so you could be quite a healer or metaphysician (Chiron), or someone widely recognized as part of the center of a progressive movement, or someone who deals with children or assuring supply for a group (Moon in Aquarius). And yes, you made perfect sense; it's just you were misled by what you read about "self undoing," which is a function of the 12th house.

[Amber]

Dear Robert,

I was having a hard time finding what my north and south node are (also rahu ketu). I went on a vedic website to get my chart read in hopes that I would get a fuller picture of what these influences are in the houses and so on, and it tells me my sun is Cancer, and my rahu ketu is leoNN/aquariuSN, whereas on other sites of western astrology I've find that I have a virgoNN/piscesSN, and additionally another site told me my SN is Aries, when I included my birth time. In western astrology my sun sign is Leo. I haven't found a site that tells me what houses are influencing the nodes either. Are there any sites that can give me a fuller picture of this? Also what are your thoughts about vedic astrolgy vs. western astrology... is it just preference or what resonates best to the individual? So confused...

[Robert]

Hi Amber - Having studied it some years ago, I have major reservations about some assumptions Vedic astrology makes, but it is a venerable system that has proved remarkably accurate for centuries in many ways. However, there is widespread disagreement even among Vedic astrologers about how to compute planetary positions. Also, it often seems a bit fatalistic for my taste, but I figure that's more about the practitioner than the craft.

I would suggest for clarity you NOT mix the two systems, or try to correlate one with the other. Stick with Western Astrology to get clear about the basics. Without a birth time I can't definitively answer some of your questions, but I suspect your NN is in Virgo, SN is in Pisces, and I have no idea what houses they're in, since that's a function of your Ascendant. Still, any listing of your planets should also list your houses (by whatever system they use) and so you should be able to find out reasonably easily what houses your Nodes fall in.

[Jay]

Robert,

So glad you've done this info on nodes. Have searched without finding much on config. I have - I have a nodal reversal with NN at 19 Libra in 1st(Aries House)-not sure if it conjuncts asc.at 15 Libra - with SN in Aries in 7th(Libra House) and both nodes squaring my MC at 18 Cancer and Nadir 19 Capricorn. So do the nodes affect all angles of my chart?

Also SN is conjunct Part of Fortune. Have you found PF to have any significance?

[Robert]

Hi Jay - You're right. There's not much out there on the Nodes. Schulman's book is excellent, but only defines one or two vectors. Yes, your NN conjuncts your Asc. Don't worry about the square to MC/IC. SN conj PF is interesting; mixing an Arabic Part with a non-planetary function; very peculiar, but I've always been a "blender," in that there are many ways to get you home.

With that Nodal conjunction, it's easy for you to be joyous and attract wealth if the texts are to be believed. Go for becoming the living Archetype, the ideal Human, however you envision that to be. Construct, or reconstruct, through "right action" a balanced, aesthetic, rhythmic, beautiful tranformed ideal self, however that's perfect for you. You'll become wealthy as Midas. When it happens, contact me. ;-)

[Joanne]

Hello Robert,
Wonderful article and website (your now on my favorites!). However, I am going thru a very difficult time in my life - doubts and depression. I have natally 26 degree Virgo NN (8th house) and 26 degree Jupiter in Sag (12th house). I went thru many changes in my life during the past two years (death, divorce, change in residence). Can these transits be affecting my life so drastically? Namaste

[Jay]

Hey Robert,

Many thanks. You have such a gift with words - great clarity in just a couple of sentences. My brain resonates with the info like ping, ping, ping! I'm doing the joyous part- more so every day. Still focusing on the wealth and Midas part. Interesting - an intuitive just a couple of months ago told me she saw an image of me walking through a door and into great wealth - and she used the term "Midas"!!!

[Robert]

Hi Joanne - Sorry you're having a tough time. Pluto is obviously purifying and reconstructing your Jupiter. The Nodes usually show long term influences triggered by other planetary transits, especially in terms of past and present eclipses. You've been learning and growing through release of old lines of growth since last Autumn, and showing what you've learned the past 9 years. Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto all work in larger ways to bring about the transformation of our personalities into something better than we've been. That often means things end, or are removed from our life in some strange ways. Grieve what must be grieved, go deep, release what needs releasing, and hold the emptiness while attracting what is in your Highest interests.

Hi Jay - Yes, well, it's in your hologram. The whole trick for you is how to use it wisely. May you benefit the world however is perfect for you.

[Gwen]

Hi, I need help understanding a few things based on my chart. First, I want to understand my sexuality/romantic nature; second, I want to know what I can do to spiritually grow and evolve. The following information should be helpful:

7//29/77 Brooklyn Hospital, NY 5:20am
Sun in Leo in 1st house
Rising in Cancer in 1st house
Saturn in Leo in 1st house
Moon in Capricorn in 6th House
Midheaven in Aries in 10th house
Mercury in Virgo in 2nd house
Venus, mars, jupitur in Gemini in 11th house
N. Node in Libra in 4th house
Uranus in Scorpio in 4th house
Neptune in Sagitatius in 5th house
Pluto in Libra in 3rd house

Please let me know if there is any other information I can provide to assist in your reading. The whole sexuality thing and spiritual growth thing are kinda important.

Feel free to take as much time as you need.
Thanks,
Gwen

[Robert]

Hi Gwen - Comment streams are not really the place for indepth analysis of charts. That's more for personal sessions. That said, you're going through your Saturn return, showing you elements of you that you must pursue in order to know who you are and who you were but are not. Sexuality and affections are usually indicated by Mars and Venus, but there are so many elements involved that again, it's far too complex a subject to deal with superficially, since it involves house placement, dispositorship, and aspects.

[Romy]

hello Robert

I'm trying to understand my Venus conjunct my as c & south node AND square my MC/IC axis. Any interpretation how this placement works? (I can't figure it out) speacially about love, since in september saturn will be in my7th house I'll leave my info

1/15/1980 Buenos Aires, Argentina
Sun Capricorn 24°29'39 in house 11 direct
Moon Sagittarius 23°14'04 in house 10 direct
Mercury Capricorn 20°46'16 in house 11 direct
Venus Aquarius 29°12'33 in house 12 direct
Mars Virgo 15°20'35 in house 7 stationary (R)
Jupiter Virgo 9°36'42 in house 7 retrograde
Saturn Virgo 26°57'09 end of house 7 stationary (R)
Uranus Scorpio 24°40'40 in house 9 direct
Neptune Sagittarius 21°25'33 in house 10 direct
Pluto Libra 21°45'02 in house 8 direct
True Node Leo 29°45'28 end of house 6 retrograde

Thank you!!

[Robert]

Hi Romy - I haven't found squares to the MC/IC as very powerful indicators of anything. Venus conj Asc shows the areas in your chart ruled by Venus are most important to you. Your Venus degree shows you are a being of the future and here to be a part of a larger "global" effort of some sort. You're here to offer visions of the future to others, and release "seed ideas" to those yet to come. With Saturn on your Jupiter and Saturn beginning September, you'll start embracing your higher destiny, which is somewhat high profile group work. Until then work on crystalizing your ability to share what you know unselfishly, and prepare for more significant relationships this Autumn.

[victoria]

Robert, you answered this question in March and it is just starting to make sense.
I am an artist, a designer and filmmaker and i so wanted/want to integrate this with my ongoing interest in natural healing of all forms...so maybe i will finally figure out why and what i suppose to do with all this info and no place to channel it..
a healer and metaphysician...and all those trails and trials to slowly become aware of it.
thank you so much for your meaningful and insightful comments.
v

Posted by: victoria | March 15, 2007 at 11:28 PM

Hi victoria - Chiron is NOT associated with "self undoing." It is that which heals us by our accepting a quest connected with a wound. Moon in Aquarius conjunct NN in the 10th is very favorable. 10th is the career house, so you could be quite a healer or metaphysician (Chiron), or someone widely recognized as part of the center of a progressive movement, or someone who deals with children or assuring supply for a group (Moon in Aquarius). And yes, you made perfect sense; it's just you were misled by what you read about "self undoing," which is a function of the 12th house.

[Nandy]

Hi Robert,

I am Pisces rising 7 degrees and have true node at 24 Virgo in house 7. Does that mean that my greatest line of growth, challenges, will come through partnerships? what am I supposed to be working on to fulfill my evolution as per true node?

Many thanks for your insights. I look forward to your writings.

Nandy

[Robert]

Hi Nandy - Exactly. It means your line of development is in partnerships, and your ability to be discerning about who to dance with and when. You're here to learn to be an equal, with those who joyously embrace a work ethic, and demonstrate your development through compassion and forgiveness toward yourself.

[Marianne]

Hello Robert~

I've recently come across your site, wow! It's been really helpful during this Venus Rx phase. Being a 7 deg Cancer Moon I've always been drawn to lunar pursuits and themes so your articles today on the Nodes was of great interest to me. The transiting NN has been hovering around my 9 Pisces Descendant for some time now and is in perfect trine to my natal Moon and is applying to my 2 Pisces Venus/2 deg Virgo Uranus. Is this why my relationship is so fraught with mood swings? These eclipses have only added to the mix. With so much going on in these areas my head is spinning and I wondered if you could help me gain a little clarity in all of this...
BTW, in perusing the archives I see your birthday is the day after mine! What an eventful birthday this past one was eh?

I'm glad I found your site the piece on the inferior conjunction was perfect - I shared it with a lot of people who were puzzled by its meaning. Thanks for sharing...

Marianne

[magenta]

Hi Robert,

Two things: I find it confusing that my 8 deg CAP/CANCER nodal axis is in the 12th/6th house in Placidus and Campanus systems (the charts I "grew up" with) and in the 11th/5th in Porphyry. How should I make sense of this? Unfortunately, I seem to be able to identify with just about any tedencies that are suggested, which is disconcerting...

Also, sometime it would be great to have your take on the importance of the Part of Fortune in general, if you think that is pertinent for other folks.
Mine in 3rd house at 24degree29 min in Taurus, opposing my 28 deg Venus retro in Scorpio on the midheaven is something I have not been able to get my head around in any illuminating way.

Thanks for any thoughts ! magenta

[mia]

Hi Robert,
I am following up your work the last years and your writing has an ongoing healing effect on many levels...and this article straight to the point, helping me to understand (or i think so) my NN 0°29 Aries on 3rd House. My work is around communications, technology, politics. I understand that my SN would be on the 9th house (virgo), which makes sense as I found peace and comfort in spirituality but have to say that i am still learning how to apply this energy in real life because i can easily lose myself into it...In a flash of a moment back in 1989 I decided to work in media/com business without knowing anything at all and have to say that I am still exploring it...
thank you so much!

[Tiffany M.]

NN in the 8th in Scorpio conjunct uranus (or is 8 degrees) - I get the meaning of the NN being in the 8th but I'm a bit confused as to how (or if) uranus affects the NN. Btw, uranus is at 4 degrees, NN at 12 degrees. On the opposite side, SN is conjunct sun & jupiter. Seems like work/values are the easy route to go whereas mysteries, pschological issues (?), sexuality, legacies, etc. are those things that should be explored. Just want to know how to get away from the ease of the SN and get closer to the meaning of the NN.

[sue]

Another interesting article - I'm having a bit trouble working out what Aries NN in the 6th house/Libra SS in 12th house would mean. I can see ( and have been told by other astrologers) that learning to be more self reliant and self confident rather than relying on others is what I need to develop. I'm not sure how that talies with the NN in the 6th house. Isn't the 6th about service and working for others? Can you help get clearer on this.
Thanks - Sue

[Jilly]

I have SN conj Sun (9th) conj MC at 27 and 28 degree Libra, with Mars at 29 Sag (12th) conj Asc at 3 deg Cappy.

Crazy year LOL but productive.

[cb]

Hi Robert,

Thanks for sharing your insight on the nodes - I am just beginning to recognize their importance - I have NN in Aquarius in my 2nd house SN Leo 8th house - I am actually a little confused on how this works - I believe this to have something to do with personal values possibly security issues - I am not sure how to read SN in 8th house or what it means that I learned from past life

A few additional questions - is it a "karmic" connection when my sun conjuncts a partner's NN?
Thank you!

[Robert]

Hi Marianne - Welcome to the cantina. You're working out the opposition. Your Moon now understands things about your Venus-NN-Dsc that can help you let go of old Uranian eccentricity and nervous explosions when confronting Venus in Pisces situations and people. This is the time to individualize, expressing your Venus growth. Stop worrying, over analyzing, criticizing, and use Divine Discrimination to express a broader refined compassion to self and others. That doesn't mean be a doormat, but rather your Uranian self which is getting a new structure for many years to come thanks to the eclipse clearing out old things paving the way for Saturn's wisdom and rigor to reveal your Dharma over the next year. Your Solar Return was no doubt a good one, given the Grand Fire Trine at work. You may want to go back to the forecast for that week and the articles I wrote about the Fire Trine between March and June for more insight about what's at work for everyone born in early April of any year.

Hi magenta - Please re-read my articles outlining the influence of the zones of overlapping influence between houses. You can find the links here in my answer to Jessi. The Arabian Parts are synthetic points created by planetary formulas, and there are many more than just the Part of Fortune, which is actually the "secondary Moon" relative to our Asc. Supposedly the PF shows us wealth, joy, and well being. I've found that while it sometimes indicates these things, it may also just show us where our self image gets nurtured or finds comfort and security. The point opposite the PF is known as the Part of Impersonal Consciousness, where we can be impersonal regarding things. In your case, you can be remarkably impersonal regarding your Venus RX in Scorpio, and find joy or well-being in concretizing the affairs of the house of the PF.

Hi Mia - I'm guessing you mean your SN is in Libra on the degree of the Archetype in your 9th house which has Virgo on the cusp. 9th house Libra SN would find comfort in spirituality, but your line of greatest development is to emerge from collective thinking and follow whatever line of individual initiative leads you out into virgin territory or pioneering ways of doing your life on your terms. The phrase that comes to mind is "no retreat, no surrender." You've been doing it 18 years, a complete Nodal cycle, which means you again entered a new world the last time the NN was in Aries. Saturn on your SN in a couple of years will show you how well you've learned to become your best self on your own terms, expressed in some archetypal way. And of course you're welcome.

Hi Tiffany - You learn more from your losses, however unexpected, than you learn from your gains. You must purify yourself and your will this lifetime, avoiding the comfort you seek. Stop accepting the simple answer to your questions. You express your Scorpio growth through your Sun-Jupiter, so accept your genius, see a bigger way to express your fundamental generosity and ability to endure whatever, get yourself oriented, get your drive in gear, and learn to be more genuinely cooperative. When you most want to be temperamental or stubbornly contrary, go deep, eliminate all negative feelings and reactivity, and synthesize on a higher level expressing a form of magnetic or regenerative power.

Hi sue - It means you must be your best self on your terms while doing pioneering work or service, or working for others, but in your own way, quickly, economically, and without needing feedback or interaction. Stop overbalancing or judging things, and jump into things to make them work better or adjust the circumstances to further new initiatives.

Hi Jilly - Pluto has transformed your Mars. Jupiter will open many doors this December which will profoundly change your life and self image in 2008-09-2010. Expect a relationship review this Autumn and Winter. Especially take note and make important adjustments to further new initiatives while focusing your potency each of the three times Mars opposes your Mars and Asc. Just slow down, be thoughtful as you move into a new sense of power and potential.

Hi cb - You grow through Aquarius values (being impersonal about money and things, etc) while expressing your growth pattern in Leo ways. You learn more from your gains than your losses, which you take way too personally. Let go of pride and hurt feelings at losses and defeats, and see the bigger picture about how friends are an asset or resource you can draw on to further the common goals and ambitions. You do better in groups than not. All connections are "karmic." A's Sun on B's NN is beneficial for both. You illuminate their line of development, and as they grow, it illuminates you. That doesn't necessarily mean it's easy - just very productive of growth and illumination. They help your Sun grow, while you warm up their evolutionary path.

[mia]

Thank you Robert! Yes, it has been quite a wild ride since I recall myself. At some stage, I was wondering whether I will ever enter a smooth one and live a very very common life but you're right that I have entered a new cycle (last june) again. A new start although I remain confused and stressed almost about everything. What I also don't understand is the resistance I am facing on my wishes, thinging, actions (sometimes even from myself!). I feel one of my lessons is to learn to communicate intelligently and smoothly while maintain my assertiveness which sometimes is perceived as aggressiveness by the others. I am not an expert in astrology and have failed to understand the added value of so much loss, blocking and ugliness towards me. I have Pluto transiting my ascendant and I think, although not so sure that Saturn has just entered the 9th house. I found the capricornian transits on my chart although I am pisces. And something else….. “Namaste” is being used in the everyday life of greeks; it has a dual meaning “Here we are / to be”. I have the impression you are a very honest and pure man. Be well!

[Robert]

Hi mia - Any prior system will rise up to defend its prerogatives against changes toward the new. Family systems, work systems, ego systems, etc. The inertia that is resistant exists due to Saturn's dysfunction as an enslaving binding force. That's why patience, organization, and determination will always bend any system to the point it changes or the catalytic force is expelled from the system.

As to why, loss, blocking, and ugliness are the perfect ways to bring the lower nature under the gentle firm control of the Higher Self. It's no sweat to be high when we're in great circumstances dealing with friends; it's harder when things are difficult, but rest assured, if we can be high when it's difficult, then we can be very high when times are easier, and eventually no one and no thing will be able to pull us out of our Higher Awareness. Pluto in the Asc is purifying you of lesser things, and making you a catalytic agent in others' lives, so expect dramatic reactions to you without you necessarily doing or saying much. Just elevate yourself as a service to the sector of humanity you affect, and expunge every negative thing you're able. Saturn in the 9th will restructure your concepts of truth. In another parallel between Greek and Sanskrit, "seva" means service in Sanskrit, and "highest respects" in Greek. Thanks for offering the impression, though of course "purity" is in the eye of the beholder and I must admit I've been 'round the block more than a few times. ;-) Aum and blessings to you.

[Kae]

Hi Robert,
Thank you for your generous spirit.You are a blessing to all:)

My progressed MC and Sun are in Pisces.Natal MC is in Aries.I have a Leo moon,Cancer rising and Capricorn sun.Venus in aquarius in the 8th and Saturn in Virgo 3rd.Mars/libra in 4th.My NN is in Aries in the 10th.I am 57.Hope this is enough info.

I am an Intuitive Palmist and want to know if I am on path using the 11Deg Aries/10th house NN energy to be doing my psychic/healing work?It feels right but can't be sure if there is something more I'm to be doing?Writing ect.

Also, are Librans and Geminis blessings for me or lessons?

I like what someone else said about using the SN energy in a NN way.I think it means I am to pursue my NN ambitions with grace and charm.Any thoughts about this?

Do you have articles on the meaning of degree placement? I find this fascinating.

Again,thanks for being here for us.

[Robert]

Hi Kae - Impossible for natal MC to be Aries and progressed MC to be Pisces except using the obscure system of converse directions. We can always be doing more. When we stop learning and growing we crystalize and die. Gemini reveals your rewards and sorrows, Libra is your line of least resistance but you don't learn much except what to let go of. You should pursue your NN with gusto, directness, and self-initiative. STOP focusing on the grace and charm thing except to express your individuality in your own way. You've already got that energy down. It's where you show your power, not where you learn anything. No articles on degree placement, but degrees figure in everything. And of course you're welcome.

[Marianne]

Hi Robert,

Thanks for the your insightful feedback. Honest, I'm trying not to overanalyze things or feel blue, but it's really hard. I feel like that old Clash song..."should I stay or should I go?" I think the eclipse in my first house, with the Sun/Uranus opposition, Saturn now sitting on my natal Uranus staring down my Venus PLUS Neptune sitting on my Saturn...it just all feels like too much at once. Maybe once the eclipse passes I'll get a little lift? Gee I sure hope so! Oh yeah, about my Solar return...I've got a big old grand cross happening along with the grand trine. (rolling my eyes). So much for natural Arien exhuberance.

Sorry to be such a downer, thanks for letting me vent : )

[Tiffany M.]

Thanks so much Robert! I wish I would have known this info long ago but better late than never!

[Cvonie]

Hi Robert,

I have been visiting your site for about a year now and think I am just beginning to understand the complex dynamics and relationships you discuss. Thank you for your insights! In reading the comment stream, it seems that none of the others are like me in nodal aspects and this seems like a big time for me, so I'll venture an ask: My NN is in Cancer (1st House), SN Capricorn (7th House)... Can you please comment? I am especially interested in the role Saturn is playing given the eclipses and its recent action. THANK YOU!

[Robert]

Hi Marianne - So stop overanalyzing things, and turn your mind and feelings to more productive focus. You're being forced to individuate, so relax. You cannot resist the revolution you're going through without creating needless suffering for yourself. When the old rules are dissolving, don't suspect something's wrong. Accept that your ego assumptions are being worn away by Divine Mother energy. Grand Crosses are great for letting go of ego resistances, since they get fractured in ways that allow you to recombine what's left that matters later on. And do NOT underestimate the power of the Grand Fire Trine to light up your life once you choose to open doors and leave dark rooms.

Hi Tiffany - Sure. Glad it helps you make some sense of things. And we usually get what we need when we need it if we open to the wonder of the outpouring of Eternal beneficence of Spirit.

Hi Cvonie - You're welcome. Usually my posts yield insights each time you read them. Lunar Nodes are most active when the Moon aspects them, by progression or transit. On the whole this lifetime, be more self-nurturing, embrace Divine Mother energy, and let go of hardness or "making relationships work." You need mature and responsible partners, but not workhorses who cannot play. Mars in Cancer will activate your growth pattern which you should be able to demonstrate through your SN as Jupiter conjuncts it next year.

[Asmat]

Hi Robert - appreciate your thoughtfulness above! i'd like some node-specific commentary too. With Saturn in the 12th in Virgo and Mars squaring the Ascendant from the IC (3rd house side), I feel like i need to work on being less 'negative' or critical, yet my NN is also in Virgo, at 22.4. (and unfortunately i often work on these characteristics by withdrawing socially.) So NN in 12th in Virgo, SN in 6th in Pisces, a reversal.
I'm not sure if it would help to round out the picture?
Mercury rx in 3rd in Sagittarius, Neptune in 3rd Sagittarius (Sun is approaching 12 minutes away).. nodes are in wide mutable square to their dispositors (and my sun).
Libra rising (perfect cardinal cross on the angles (1.2 degrees of each cardinal sign), Venus in scorpio (2d), Pluto in libra (1st).
i get opposite social feedback from people: alternately 'you're too serious/heavy' and 'you're too scattered/sociable'
what do the nodes suggest i should concentrate on?
warmly,
asmat

[Henry]

Hi Asmat, I'm not Robert, so wait for his more accurate insights, it's only I've worked personally on "a little part" of what you expose and my aim is to help in sharing experiencies.
You, like me, have NN in 12th (me Scorpio) and SN in 6th (me Taurus), being your ruler of 4th -Saturn- (I guess your 4th is Capricorn, thus Saturn rules it), in 12th, as I have my 4th house ruler, Uranus, in 12th.
My non pretentious and experience-based little insight is perhaps you may "dig deep" in your family-acquired patterns, your "Saturn-Family figure" or lack of it, and how these patterns are affecting you till today subconciously (as 12th House is all that is hidden from ourselves). With NN 12th in a sign like Virgo plus the "structurator" Saturn, possibly you must "clean-off" some patterns of confusion (Piscis-Neptune) related to your early experiences in life. That was my case, in a different shape, but if it's a clue...I hope it will.

[Henry]

Hi again Asmat, I forgot one point: being 12th "in the game" and with the reversal, Neptune/Pisces can also focus on FEARS, first irrational, and that you can transmute in rational, recognize them and solve them (Virgo function).
I repeat, wait for the Teacher of The Classroom!!!!.

[Robert]

Hi asmat - Natal NN in Virgo in 12th shows karmic service behind the scenes, or one who heals to release old ghosts from other people. Pisces SN in 6th shows you're too quick to be of service in unclear situations, and don't need to adjust yourself so fluidly. Figure out if you SHOULD be adapting or serving or whatever. Saturn will crystalize a new line of greatest development perfect for the now over the next few years as you take a new look at and give a new interpretation to the movie of your life. You need to develop a more mature and effective "divine discrimination." Pay attention to the details of your life "mythos," and never fall into the illusion that it's all just a big vague whatever. Claim your responsibility based in your experience.

Mars is showing new emergences, but you're going to have to do other things, or re-do things you've already done, before you'll be on track in late Jan-Feb 2008. With Mercury RX, take a new look and give a new interpretation about how to coordinate, understand and communicate things. Enjoy Jupiter opening major doors. Your Cardinal Cross will help you deal with unstable situations and people and allow you to take the initiative. Your values and address book have been majorly changed the past two years, and to paraphrase something Rumi once said in a poem, "Start a huge, foolish project like Noah - it makes absolutely no difference what other people think about you." The Nodes show you need to pay attention so you don't space out important factors in everything.

Hi Henry - If Saturn's the ruler of his 4th, you've offered interesting insights. And yes, definitely with Saturn-NN conjunct in Virgo in the 12th it's clean up time turning confusion or hesitancy into discrimination and practical self-adjustment of motives and old unproductive behaviors. And yes, Virgo is a good balance for Pisces.

[Asmat]

Gosh you two.
Dear Henry - yes, Cap rules 4th - but you can imagine how that goes with a Sagittarian Mars on the cusp ;)

Robert - "don't need to adjust yourself so fluidly. Figure out if you SHOULD be adapting or serving or whatever." -- Cheers for the gracious analysis! I LOVE the Rumi quote.

[LaurenNYNy]

Hi Robert

This article was very interesting as I have a big problem with my chart and do not know how to work it at 48. I have my intercepted Moon in Aries at 12' 53 in my lst house and I have my natal north node at 9 degrees Libra intercepted.

Seems like a relationship is very challenging unless I meet someone who is as independent as I am. Any advice for me ....

Thanks for the read!

[Robert]

Hi LaurenNYNy - Okay. What you've told me is you're a Pisces rising, your North Node is in Libra in the 7th, and your Moon in Aries is conjunct the South Node in Aries in the 1st. That means your line of greatest development is in equal relationships, the dance and give-and-take between people. It's easy for you to be independent, go in a different direction on a moment's notice, and you play or create quickly and intensely, but don't take much time to polish the work. Quick to take interest, quick to bail if the dream isn't exactly what you want. You probably need to cultivate charm, grace, balance, and style in how you are with potential partners, allow your relationships to grow at their own rhythm, and not be so quick to worry or criticize or move into a new direction when they can't keep up with you. With Virgo on your 7th, you naturally gravitate to hard working detail oriented people who serve. Mercury, Venus, and Mars will show the keys to who you could be with.

[LaurenNYNy]

Good Morning Robert and thank you for your quick response

I am trying so hard to be sweet and charming LOL but that Moon in Aries makes you one of the guys!

I am just getting ready to read your article on intercepted signs ....

Currently I have 2 men checking me out, Scorpio and Capricorn and they are both 10 years older than me. I was thinking these signs were good for me as my progressed chart has Sagg ruling 7th and 8th houses with Pluto just crossing to 8th house and Capricorn rules my 9th (2nd marriage) and in a few years my progressed 8th will be capricorn ruled.

Have a wonderful day!!!

[Robert]

Hi LaurenNYNy - Just try to make sure you don't have "crossed nodes," i.e., they have a SN in Libra and a NN in Aries. I've found this produces frustration since one grows through what the other doesn't and vise versa. This most often occurs between people born about 9-10 years apart. And look to the natal rather than progressed to spot enduring factors in relationship, since the rest are a product of time and will eventually evolve past whatever is shown now. Scorpio rules the 2nd marriage of natal Pisces rising, so look to Mars to see prime elements.

[LaurenNYNy]

You are spot on ..... His nn is at 16 Degrees Aries which is basically conjunct my moon and sn.

His Neptune is on my nn and trines my sun and mercury, which then sextiles my moon, and uranus

What do you make of this ... Is this a good Ah ha moment?

Thanks so much for your time in educating me on this.

[Robert]

Hi LaurenNYNy - You will grow through observing the illusion or collective ideal. The aspects could mean a thousand things, depending.

[LaurenNYNy]

Hi Robert

I'm a bit confused. Do you mean the illusion of the relationship .... I dont exactly get the meaning of "the collective ideal" (Does it mean we idealize each other?)

Thanks!

[Mandi]

Hello Robert,
Firstly I would just to say thank you so much for your incredible insight and genius, I really appreciate you. I have in the past year learned about the power of knowing and studying my nodal positions at birth. It has been nothing short of profoundly life changing. I have been going throught so much in the past couple of years any info you can impart would be a great help. Can you give me any information about NN in Taurus in the 11th house? Thank you so much in advance!

[Robert]

Hi Mandi - It means you grow through Taurus friends, goals, and ambitions. It shows you don't learn from intensity of play or "theatrical enthusiasms," though if you can simplify and learn how to enjoy things as they are, you can let go of a lot of pressure and tensions through forms of creative self expression.

[Lainie]

Hi Robert,
Would you be willing to comment on Scorpio NN in 6th house, conjunct Mercury . . . SN in Taurus in 12. As I am at a career/livelihood crossroads (and because my 6th house is so full) I am trying to better understand the 6th house. I don't seem to fit the conventional service, pets, etc. description of it. I do resonate with the idea of healing, and also artisanship, crafts, as well as editing and writing, though the writing part has never really brought much joy or happiness. I haven't done well in jobs or teamwork situations; I often seem to create a scapegoat situation for myself, or in a more Scorpionic interpretation, I become the lightning rod for change and exposing problems, but often at my expense. Yet working alone at home is very isolating. In most recent situation was pigeonholed as "glass half empty" which was enormously frustrating for me.
Thank you for your insights.

[Henry]

Hi Robert.

I've got a question involving nodes:

I've got a most peculiar Natal "T-Square" involving NN 12th Scorpio and SN 6th Taurus at the basement, being the "capstone" of the pyramid a Sun-Saturn-Mercury-Venus in Cancer/Leo 9th.

If the NN is the path to fulfillment and the SN the path yet accomplished and mastered, OK, I understand this "lineal" travel.

But which is the paper that play so many planets "challenging" in square this path?. Which is its meaning?. Are they obstacles in the path?. Are they traps or tricks to be experienced along the path?. Or things that trigger the path?. Or a final solution being in the capstone of the T-Square?. Because the capstone is all my inner planets and Light, not just a joke...

Any insight will be much appreciated, you know, I try to reduce volumes of information to symbols for a more concise "visualization".

Blessings. Henry.

[Susan]

Hi Robert,
I was contacted by an astrologer by the name of Serena in Switzerland recently. She told me that my North Node and my South Node would connect and disconnect on March 21st and this would change my life and would bring exceptional LUCK. I can't find anything about this anywhere else.
Can you give me some information on what this really means? The North Node was in the 1st house when I was born but the South Node doesn't seem to appear on my chart.
Thanks,
Susan

[Robert]

Hi all - Sorry I didn't get to your comments last September, but I was so busy I suspect they fell off the sidebar.

Hi Susan - Having no info on your chart, I couldn't possibly comment. I've never heard of "connect and disconnect" except for exact conjunctions which occur about every 9 years. As for exceptional luck, that sounds like commercial hokum, since the Nodes have little to do with "luck." If your NN is in the first, then your SN must be in the 7th.

[Lion]

Hey, Robert,

I am curious of what does it mean to have Moon conjunct NN (in my case both are in Leo in the 9th house)?

I am guessing it is a good sign. Moon shows what we need and since needs are so primal, they must be met. By meeting needs one would grow. LOL

Of course, that's the way I would like to have it. :)

Looking forward of reading your comment, ;)
Lion

P.S.
My true NN is 0°01' Leo and mean NN is already in Cancer. Would you look at the mean NN too (in an interpretation)?

[Robert]

Hi Lion - It could mean 10,000 things. It could show as a need to live in foreign or distant lands ruled by Leo (such as France, Italy, Colorado, Hawaii) or make your home near a university. It shows a need to cultivate strong noble heartfelt emotions and learn how to creatively nurture others. You need caring forms of spiritual truths and noble persistence in questing for higher understanding. Children can teach you a lot about truth and vise versa. You could learn and teach through theatrical forms. These are just a few of the 10,000 things. Yes, I would consider both true and mean nodes, since by progression your NN did enter Cancer where I'm sure it still occupies.

[Lion]

Thanks for your prompt response, Robert.

Funny that you mentioned France. Since very little I am attracted by that country and have even learned French because of that. But when I checked its chart, I saw it was Libra Sun (my Sun sign too). It's funny, because the general charactaristics of a (stereo)typical Frenchman and even of the country as a whole correspond very well with my character. :)

As for the conjunction with the Moon, I was actually just curious how does it modify the meaning of the NN itself.

Anyway, thanks for giving some suggestions.

Lion

[Robert]

Hi Lion - I mentioned France because traditionally it's ruled by Leo, (like Italy) even though the Constitution of the 5th Republic makes this government a Libra with Moon in Cancer. Glad the suggestions could open some possibilities - now let your imagination do the rest!