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Jorge Torres

ThankYou Robert You Always give Us Light !!!

Best Wishes with The Jupiter Venus Conjunction Today !!!!


Thank you for a helpful article, Robert, and I agree with your advice. I've been trying to crack this nut for years, as I have my Cancer Moon, Sun and Jupiter on the cusp of the 5th and 6th houses. I found that I've had growth experience in both houses. My Saturn/Neptune conjunction is on the cusp of 8th and 9th houses AND Libra/Scorpio, and the same rule has applied there as well. With the 8th and 9th houses, boy, what a long, strange trip that's been. Anyway, even though it complicates things, it is definitely worthwhile to study both houses of a cusp aspect. More pieces of the puzzle can be found that way. Namaste! :)


Thank you Robert. I am so glad my question prompted this discussion! Many things now make much more sense to me.

Isabel Nobre

Dera Robert, this is so enlightening, yet, in my case, I was already doing that intuitively!

All the best, much Love,


Ellen Longo

Hi, Robert.

I found your post through a link from Astrological Musings.

Great post which brings us three things for me.
1. I'm wondering how you actually represent the cusp ranges on the horoscope chart and whether adding the step of gathering the range makes chart preparation a much longer process.
2. Even if a planet is in one house in one system and another house in another system, in both cases it is leaving one house and entering another. Do you find that planets behave differently whether they are leaving or entering a house and does that influence your interpretation?
3. Another fascinating point that your post brings up is, if you have planets in different houses according to the system, you really learn about the relationship between houses; how one house morphs into the next and why one house follows the other. In other words, what areas of life are naturally connected and grow out of each other. This implies a flowing-ness between the houses rather than stark differences.

Thank you so much for such a provacative post!


Hi Jorge - You're most welcome. Glad this helps elucidate some things!

Hi Valerie - I figured since there are so many with planets in the overlap zone I should remind all that it's not like the cusps are writ in stone!

Hi Liz - You just never know what kind of an article might come out of a question! Glad I could elaborate.

Hi Isabel - Yes, it seems intuitive that it's all about quadrants rather than slices of a pie!

Hi Ellen - Lynn has a great blog, doesn't she? We're definitely fans of each other's sites. As for your questions, no, it doesn't make it longer, since I use Porphyry and eyeball equal house. If I want to do more advanced research on a chart, I just hit any other house division system on my computer program and it gives me another value for the houses. Takes all of about 5 seconds. As for entering v leaving a house, yes there is a difference, but as long as a planet is still in a house and not in a zone it makes no difference. (Leaving one sign and entering another within a house makes much more difference!) And you can apply the same rules for entering/leaving houses as you would under normal circumstances, since that zone is where those two life areas most impact each other. You're spot on re: "flowingness between the houses" since again, the house cusps are like frets on a guitar. You don't need them, but they do make convenient frames of reference.

Michael Tyler

FWIW, I wanted to put a plug in for Porphyry. I think rather than getting hung up on space vs time division, the most important factor is the primacy of 12, 12 signs and 12 houses. So obviously each quadrant needs 3 houses. The ascendant and midheaven are set by the reality of one's location at birth, and after that, you need 3 houses per quadrant, so division of the arc by 3 is the most straightforward approach. I guess for me it's a number thing.

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