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mike

“The Ephebians believed that every man should have the vote (provided that he wasn't poor, foreign, nor disqualified by reason of being mad, frivolous, or a woman). Every five years someone was elected to be Tyrant, provided he could prove that he was honest, intelligent, sensible, and trustworthy. Immediately after he was elected, of course, it was obvious to everyone that he was a criminal madman and totally out of touch with the view of the ordinary philosopher in the street looking for a towel. And then five years later they elected another one just like him, and really it was amazing how intelligent people kept on making the same mistakes.”

― Terry Pratchett, Small Gods

Valerie

Helpful and thoughtful analysis -- thank you, Robert, for a wealth of intelligence to ponder.

Robert

Hi all - It's already begun! One of the headlines today: "As Candidates Make Final Pleas, Legal Battles Begin - President Obama and Mitt Romney hunted for support in battleground states even as their parties faced off in the first court skirmishes over presidential ballots and how they are counted."

Renee

Judging from your article, the Democratic party is without a hint of wrong-doing on any front. Is this possible?

Robert

Hi Renee - Please refer to the early section called "So what happened to create the mess that set the stage..." I absolutely agree the Dems are spineless, corrupt, and one face of the money party. However, Repub fiscal policies have killed the middle class while encouraging state supported corporatism, aka, fascism. (Yes, it happened when Repubs controlled all three branches of government under W, and thus the budget and ALL policies, for 6 years.) Given the choice between lazy and corrupt versus fascist, I support neither, but will always vote against fascists. You can always throw out lazy and corrupt politicians, but fascists will kill you, or "rendition" you to a faraway land and torture you, then leave you on a hill in Bulgaria.

ps - And I do NOT like that Obama continued so many of W's policies, and that progressive voices have been shut out of the political dialog. They are two faces of one party, but one face is far more ruthless and would gladly take away women's rights and go back to a health insurance model that is the nation's leading cause of bankruptcy.

Robert

Hi all - From Bradblog and FreePress.org, here's an example of Republican dirty tricks: Apparently Republican Ohio Sec. of State Jon Husted's office and ES&S, the nation's largest e-voting system manufacturer, contracted for a new, last minute piece of software created to the custom specifications of the Sec. of State. A lawsuit has been filed for an immediate injunction against Husted and ES&S to "halt the use of secretly installed, unauthorized 'experimental' software in 39 counties' tabulators".

ADD Ohio: "In Ohio, Republican election officials will go to court on Monday to defend an 11th-hour directive to local election officials that critics say could invalidate thousands of provisional ballots by forcing voters to attest to the type of identification they provide."

Renee

Hi Robert: Thanks - I just wanted to level the playing ground. Me: Libra-rising!

Robert

Hi all - Addressing the remark about lawyers from the first paragraph of "So what can we realistically expect", the top headline from NBC.com - "Will Election Day be a 'perfect storm?' Four nightmare scenarios for what could go wrong"

Here's a bit from the article: "With more than 90 million Americans expected to cast their ballots on Tuesday, election officials across the country are bracing for what some fear will be a “perfect storm” of election day problems that could result in tense confrontations at polling stations and a rush to the courthouse to file legal challenges."

"The list of actual and potential problems is unusually long this year, ranging from concerns about machine failures to confusion over new rules governing voter ID and provisional ballots."

"Another big wild card: the impact of groups such as “True the Vote,” a Tea Party off-shoot, that is vowing to swarm polling places with an army of hundreds of thousands of “citizen” poll watchers to look for fraud and challenge ineligible voters."

"It’s a threat that civil rights groups are vowing to fight with their own rival armies of poll watchers -- to “monitor the monitors,” says one activist."

“Our election system has probably never been under as much strain as it is right now -- anything that can go wrong, probably will go wrong,” said Victoria Bassetti, a former Senate Judiciary Committee counsel and the author of the new book, “Electoral Dysfunction: A Survival Manual for American Voters.”

"Bassetti notes that the camps backing both President Barack Obama and Republican nominee Mitt Romney have “pre-positioned their legal assets” by deploying thousands of volunteer lawyers to battleground states in order to challenge decisions by election supervisors, in court if necessary."

"In Florida, the litigation is already heating up. On Sunday, the Florida Democratic Party filed emergency lawsuits to extend early voting -- challenging GOP governor Rick Scott’s refusal to do so -- after some voters were stuck in lines for up to six hours trying to meet Saturday’s deadline for early ballots. When the Miami Dade election office reopened to allow in-person absentee balloting, and then temporarily shut it down, frustrated voters started shouting, “Let Us Vote! Let Us Vote!”-- stirred up by a man wearing an Obama campaign tee shirt."

Robert

Hi all - Here's an interesting article about Which corporations are donating to which SuperPACs.

ADD: From McClatchy and the San Jose Mercury News, I just found the answer to a mystery! One of this election's largest Republican SuperPAC contributors ($11 mil) in California is none other than the Koch brothers. Money laundering has been admitted by someone connected with the conspiracy.

ADD: It's the first BILLION dollar campaign.

ADD: Now that the bar tabs have been paid, as of Nov 7, it's now officially a TWO BILLION dollar campaign. Sheldon and the Koch brothers didn't get much for their money....

Iris

I'm no political expert. I don't know much about polls, except no one has called me. I have, however, been checking Bovada (Harrah's online gambling site) for the last few months.
People are & have been putting their money on Pres. Obama's re-election.
Right now, a Democratic win for the White House is betting at -$400 & a Republican win is at +$300. This means, as near as I can tell, you have to bet $400 to make $100 if you bet on Pres. Obama. You have to bet $100 on Gov. Romney to make $300.
I'll be interested to see just how accurate these odds are. Bovada, of course, takes bets from people worldwide.
Look forward to your posting your interpretation of the election chart, Robert. Thank you.

Robert

Hi Iris - Yes, the odds from bookmakers are on Obama winning another term. It is assumed that those who are actually putting up money on a candidate are more accurate indicators of who will be elected. That's because professional gamblers do not put money up based in emotions, but rather from more reasoned calculations based in best information available at the time. And in an interesting news story I just saw yesterday, it seems that regarding polls, those where you state who you're voting for are less accurate than those which ask "who do you think will win?" Those polls also favor Obama. Again, I believe Obama wins unless the voting machines are hacked (and the installation of spurious software patches has already begun in Ohio courtesy of the Republican SOS!)

caliban

My question is this . . . If I turn off the computer, the radio, the tv, and avert my eyes from the newstand, how long will it take for the election results to be made known to me?

The cell phone will be the kicker because it's a lifeline between a few and me and needs attention.

Robert

Hi all - ADD Ohio: There is no way anyone will know who won Ohio for a while after tomorrow's election. Why? From the WaPo:

"In Ohio, a new dispute has broken out over the validity of provisional ballots. Usually, such special ballots — cast by voters but set aside for examination later — are required when something about the voter’s eligibility is in doubt. For example, the voter might lack proper identification or be in the wrong precinct, or the person might have requested an absentee ballot but then showed up to vote in person at a polling place.

When examined in more detail later, provisional ballots are either discarded or, if the voter’s eligibility is established, counted.

The fight over those ballots has now increased the possibility that — if Tuesday’s election comes down to the Buckeye State, it won’t end on Tuesday night at all.

Instead, it might be weeks before Ohio has a final result. Voting rights advocates contend that a new directive issued Friday evening by Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted improperly places the burden on voters — rather than poll workers — for accurately recording the form of identification on provisional ballots.

Husted ordered the state’s 88 county elections boards to reject provisional ballots when the identification portion is incomplete. This appears to be in conflict with a consent decree reached last month between the state and voting rights groups that said provisional ballots with incomplete identification information should be counted.

A group of unions and voting rights groups went to federal court Thursday asking that the state be made to reaffirm that commitment. A day later, Husted released his directive. The state is expected to respond before the end of Monday, but a decision may not come until after the election. Election boards have 10 days after the election to evaluate the eligibility of provisional ballots and decide whether to count them."

rebekka@photon.net

Thank you for taking the time to write and share this with us all Robert. Much appreciated!!!

Sara

This is an amazing and lucid article. Thank you so much for passing your insight, information, and analysis on to us!! I find your articles to be very helpful to me as I look at the world and think about what's important.

Robert

Hi all - At least these two articles offer two forums to comment in, one astrological, and this one. To that end, I thought it ironic and very weird to find out that Mitt Romney's final speeches have appropriated Stephen Colbert's campaign slogan of "making a better tomorrow, tomorrow" You just can't make this up! I suppose "truthiness" rules. From Dana Milbank's column over at the WaPo:

"As he made his closing appeal to voters on the final day before the election, Mitt Romney sounded as though, at any moment, he might burst into a song from the musical “Annie.”

“Tomorrow’s a moment to look into the future and imagine what we can do,” he said.

“Tomorrow, we get to work rebuilding our country, restoring our confidence and renewing our conviction.”

“Tomorrow, on November 6th, we come together for a better future.”

“Tomorrow is a new beginning. Tomorrow we begin a new tomorrow.”"

Alan

Excellent article and analysis Robert. But I would expect nothing less from you. Loved the passion

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