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Ilse

Thanks for the insights; Saturn is going to square my Aquarius Sun the end of october. Fortunately it is just a single hit :-)

Lainie

Thank you, this is helpful. Saturn is transiting/stationing right on my north node and setting off my natal uranus/chiron/nodes square. Challenging, to say the least. It's hard not to feel locked in the square, yet as if I should be doing some major destiny-following - if I only knew what to do.

lea

Thank you, this is very timely for me as saturn was conjunct my scorpio ascendant late last year and will be again 2 more times this year. I knew it had to be significant, but most things I've read about the transit are pretty negative. This is a very good explanation. :-)

Robert

Hi Ilse - Yes, but you already began to prepare for that event last Jan-Feb, when Saturn hit its station near the square. So really you've already been going through the experience since then. In Oct it will make a waning (upper) square, so you will experience it's public influence for quite a while. The square will mark the point of emergence from the solar 9th to 10th. Saturn in the solar 10th is a very powerful influence that lasts for a long time. And as it moves further into Scorpio, your Sun will experience the binovile, quintile, and sextile, so enjoy the ride!!

Hi Lainie - Saturn on the NN crystallizes a long wave cycle of development. Squares challenges us to integrate the energies by using the voids. So use Sat conj NN to turn the corner on your old Uranus/Chiron function, and use the void energies as a balance to get the square into productive integration.

Hi lea - Thanks. Most traditional interpretations of Saturn transits are stuck in some weird superstitious approach to astrology. These mostly come from other centuries when people were ignorant of the potential of becoming the embodiment of a positive Saturn function.

While it can be difficult, it's really only so to the degree that we refuse to take responsibility, resist taking on a new rigor or learning, refuse to become a more responsible, patient, and mature personality, or play to our slavery rather than our dominion over our material creation.

Ilse

Thank you Robert for your kind reply! Yes, I do feel the effect of Saturn since my birthday. Saturn is a challenge as always. Nevertheless, I try to work with his energy instead of fearing his influence. In that respect your lectures are of great help!

Roo

Hello Robert thank you for these timely articles.All in 4th house scorpio I have NN conj IC at 2,Uranus 7,Mercury 11,Sun 12 and Mars 18 squaring Saturn conj Asc at 17 Leo.Natally Sat also trine Moon in 9th and Venus and Nep in 5th and sextile Pluto in 3rd.Phew! feeling stuck,lost,fearful,depressed.Whole life needs sorting out and don't know where or how to begin.I don't normally post but any advice/wisdom at this time would be most gratefully received.
Many Thanks in anticipation from a long-time reader.

Aelk

love it!

debbie

Thank you Robert and even though I wouldn't say I am looking forward to the RX that will trigger much in my chart and would dearly love a break from his influence a little, I had the final square before natal conjunction at 29 Libra and I am quite enthusiastic to make sure I have honoured the lessons and also as I would dearly love a good and honourable reality to come into being in my 7th house as he goes through my 1st testing through opposition, he will oppose natal Venus in 7th at 15' Taurus thus a new life partner possibility also. I know I need to ensure I am as honourable and good in reality in order to see that in my 7th or a partner and embrace the opportunity. I can honestly say I no longer fear saturn, yet I am aware and accepting of his formidable and respect commanding reverence. Thank you

Nancy Robinson

For-Maat came to mind after reading. A graphic designer here..Took time out to use imagination, dream, envision. Thanks for the insights, food for much thought.

Heather Rodgers

Interesting. I realized during saturn conjoined AC that my marriage was never going to work. I finally mustered up enough courage to leave him 7 years during saturn square AC. Saturn will oppose AC next year and I can't wait to see what happens. Hopefully, it will be a happy, stable marriage. :)

Heather Rodgers

I would like to add, when I left my husband and fought hard for custody, saturn was conjunct sun, mercury and mars in 4th house. That was a very tough time. Worth it though and I am thankful saturn transits to my personal planets are long behind me.

Lazyveggie

Is there difference in interpretation if nataly Saturn is in opposition/square to the ascendant?

Robert

Hi Ilse - You're most welcome. It's always interesting to note Saturn's position in the Solar Return chart, as well as the transits since then. I believe that as we learn to appreciate living Saturn's virtues, we grow into mastery of our lives. Glad my take on things makes sense and contributes to a greater willingness to embrace Saturn rather than fear it.

Hi Roo - Sounds like you're doing some long term restructuring of your foundations. Whatever you saw you needed to do back at the Saturn return is now hit a turning point, which happens to coincide with long term endings of your Scorpio foundations and memories of the past, both this life as well as prior ones, given how many points are being subjected to Saturn's influence. Stuck is only the result of not moving. Fearful is only the result of falling into a useless illusion. Depressed is only the result of not allowing something to surface.

Sorting out begins with looking at long term and short term patterns. What did you choose and when did you choose it? Why did you choose it and has it served its purpose? How are you enslaved by unproductive patterns, whether physical, emotional, or mental? Do you have a regular discipline for stilling the monkey mind and the 5 senses and going into deep connection with "All-That-Is?" Are your meditations and contemplations and speech serving your best, higher interest and Self or not?

I've discussed the antidotes for attachment, aversion, illusion, and the mind suffering its own suffering many times on this site. Please check out what I've said about these using the site google box. It may help you see what tools you have to sort things out and get oriented toward integrating your personality so it's a useful vehicle for doing your highest, best interests. Start with seeing unproductive patterns and stop them. Start living more productive patterns as YOU determine this, as long as they ARE productive patterns. Sort out which are and which aren't, and reprogram your mind toward a more positive intention, which is within your power to realize and apply.

Hi Aelk - Gear fab!

Hi debbie - You're most welcome. A retrograde can bring us interesting returns if we're open to seeing things through different eyes of understanding. Sometimes connecting the dots can help us see where what's been relates to now, and how we can turn the spaceship of our consciousness and existence toward better ways and days.

I've also been under a lot of Saturn conjunctions and oppositions for several years now. Much of "honoring the lessons" is found through the old saw, "the reward of patience is patience." That's true of all the Saturn virtues. "The reward of responsibility is response-ability, aka the ability to respond." Saturn angles to Venus usually clean out people and things that no longer express our evolved way of living our Venus function that has come forth since the last conjunction, square, or opposition. But it also makes everyone and every thing in our lives more meaningful.

Hi Nancy Robinson - Glad it opened some doors!

Hi Heather Rodgers - Yes, that would be a typical realization! Sorry that things had to end, but if the other is not a friend who we could grow with, live with, care with, love with, and play with, then it's best to close that chapter. After we take some time to do self-reflection and still the echoes of past patterns, as well as train our mind and feelings to identify more helpful ones for the future, we will inevitably attract another who could be a friend with these traits to the degree we are clear about them.

Saturn in the 7th matures our relationships, and compels us to accept that we cannot and should not be controlling in relationships, nor be controlled. When we get beyond the fear and control push and pull that often comes up with Saturn in the 7th, then we can be ourselves and the others can be themselves and we relate as mature equals rather than projections of the subconscious mind.

Glad you did what you felt you had to do to be the maturity and authorship of your Light, Mind, and Effort during the custody fight. Saturn on the Sun is never an easy time, but we do see what we can live with and what we can't, and what we must do in order to break free of the chains of mental slavery. It definitely teaches us persistence and determination to carry things through to the end, whatever that means. When Saturn touches a planet, welcome to your bottom line issues!!

Hi Lazyveggie - Please reference what I just wrote above about Saturn in or near the 7th. In the natal chart, the aspects to the Ascendant indicate those parts of us that are in harmony with or challenging to our self-image, or the lessons we'll go through involving those planets will resonate with our self-image one way and another. So yes, the natal aspects show in significantly different ways than the transits, though through the transits we come to understand how well integrated our natal aspects are, or not.

For everyone, here's a fundamental of astrological analysis: The natal planets are the tendencies we were born with, showing us what we were and weren't in past lives, as well as what we came here to learn and manifest. The progressions show how these natal tendencies have evolved. They are not as strong as the natal patterns, but we can learn through progressions to evolve how we demonstrate our natal tendencies. The transits show us the gestalt of the moment, the dance of the various "forces above" as they resonate via various harmonic relationships with those "forces below" that reside within us. And I'll re-post this as a short article in the near future.

Nic

Brilliant and enlightening!

Amrita

What a great comment stream! I got so much out of everyone's comments and Robert, your responses to each really helped me a lot and your comment; "Depressed is only the result of not allowing something to surface", was perfect for these ears right now.
And I love " Stuck is only the result of not moving" - very Zen - beautiful! Thanks for everything.

Janell

Robert, not being too familiar with astrology, I can only follow your paper to some degree. But there have been strange behavioral issues in both humans and animals around me, & weather, some one has suggested may have to do with Saturn's current alignment. A father-adult son confrontation resulted in near fisticuffs on 5/3 (this is not normal). On & since approximately 5/1 my horse, typically the "alpha" mare among 3 has become a submissive & the mare typically submissive has become "alpha" and aggressive/confrontational. Some much so that a fight bite caused mine to need stitches. Now there is a rain pattern that is moving more slowly that I've ever seen, creeping eastward in 18 hours what would normal happen in 1-2 hours. I'm hoping it is the planets and life will soon return to "normal". Could these issues be related to Saturn or perhaps any other celestial occurance?

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