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UranuscnjMC

As long as you stick with the ineffable qualities of the Grand Irrationality, I think you're fine. Global warming in light of the latest Arctic Ice Sheet data? I think you need to get out and around, a little bit more.

Global Warming, climate deniers...let's face it; the real deniers are the idiots posing as scientists who dish out your well masticated propaganda cud so well to us, each and every bloody day.

Wake up Aquarius! Smell da Coffee!

Robert

Hi Uranus - Thanks for the vote of confidence. Consider this a teachable moment. You will note this article is not about Arctic ice. It's about Antarctic ice. We are discussing the South Pole, not the North Pole.

This is not "well masticated propaganda." These are hard measurements about the thickness of ice at a critical place on the west side of the Antarctic Continent. The Arctic is NOT a continent, but a sea.

Since you brought an attitude to the site, I will correct your phrase. "Let's face it; the real deniers are the ignorant posing as being learned who know nothing about the problem, and may even confuse the North Pole with the South Pole." At least climate scientists, as duped as you feel they are, know the difference between the North Pole and the South Pole.

ps - This article has nothing to do with average global climate temperature. This is specifically about the rate of melt of ice in the Antarctic. The ice is melting at accelerating rates. There is no data to refute this. This is also not about generating fear, but letting everyone know the latest findings about rate of ice melt in the Antarctic.

RodJM

At the currently assessed rates of melting, what is going to happen if this melting situation meets or interferes with the sub-glacial lakes in Antarctica such as Lake Vostok?
Apparently, its a place that has been cut off from the world for some 14 million years and the Russians "touched" this deeply frozen world back in 2012. They are still analyzing the core sample this year.
There are numerous internet articles about this place, it sounds like something similar to Steven Spielberg's Jurassic Park! who knows what is frozen or lies in this place....
http://www.isciencetimes.com/articles/4375/20130115/buried-lake-reached-vostok-water-retrieved-14-million-years.htm

truebluemum

Robert
I have been reading your blog for 10 years.this is my first time commenting......

You Rock! I seriously love the way you just schooled that troll.
I Thank you for your insight, your wisdom, your dedication, your humility, your depth of knowledge and your unbelievable generosity for sharing all of this with us in hopes that we all gain the ability to see that which is our divine light and divine right~ the song of the spheres. You sir, are a living bodhisattva and I thank you for helping me AND SO MANY others navigate our path in this journey around the wheel. As we all intuitively know THIS time around is a REALLY big deal. Which is why ,most certainly, your voice is so needed and so appreciated.We bless you 1008 times over, we the generation of healers who you have chosen to serve with your gifts . To us YOU ARE AN instrument of the heavenly musicians.pranams

Debbie

To me the planet earth, just like its natural annual seasons, is going into summer and it will be a long one, humans have contributed in making it tougher no doubt about it, yet if we accept it, start respecting nature, stop doing what is disrespectful and learn to adapt like every other living thing, we still have the chance to survive as nature originally created life on this planet to do. But then Im just a simple everyday person, so I assume with the brilliance of science and its ability to predict future cycles based on the past they would have told us if my simple view had some glimmer of truth cos its not rocket science.

Robert

Hi all (and especially UranusonjMC) - For those who may think I was a bit testy in my exchange with UranusonMC, check this out. I could have taken Brad's approach!

"Dear incurious dupes, stooges, patsies, pawns, chumps, rubes and suckers of the Climate Change Denial Industry: Please study the animated GIF below" (which is followed by a graph on the Bradblog site that is guaranteed to give climate change deniers headaches and heartburn.)

Under the headline "No, Climate Change Deniers and Patsies, Wider Arctic Ice Extent Compared to Last Year's Record Low Does Not Mean 'Climate Change is Dead'" - British tabloid offers completely misleading and inaccurate claim that globe is 'cooling'; Fox 'News', Limbaugh and their reliable stooges help spread the irresponsible reporting like herpes..." we read Brad's take on the news.

Read it and weep, climate deniers - you've been duped again. Brad just took you to church. And for those who don't want to spend too much time on this, the argument is about ice volume, not surface area.

Robert

Hi all - Since regular readers know that I've been concerned about this for years, I figure all that we can learn about it matters, one way and another. Again, the link above has some great graphics and facts. From the BradBlog story, here's a comment on the article from a guy named David Werth:

"The climate contrarians are just going to get more shrill as the release of the IPCC AR5 approaches but my perception is that fewer people are taking that side of the issue than a few years ago. I guess they'll just try to shout louder.

"Your use of the term "ice sheet" was kind of confusing. In science an ice sheet is ice that is sitting on land, not floating on the ocean. Sea ice is ice that has frozen on the ocean and an ice shelf is the tongue of a glacier that is floating on the ocean. It helps if you use the terminology correctly.

"Also when measuring the ice there are three commonly used metrics, extent, area and volume. Extent is the area of ocean that is 15% or more covered with ice whereas area is just the area covered with ice ignoring the open water between floes. Both are pretty easily measured visually. Volume requires knowing the thickness of the ice as well so it isn't as easily measured. The current technique involves using radar to detect the elevation of the sea ice surface above sea level and calculating the volume from that."

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