by Robert Wilkinson
Following up on the theme of sorting out just what is the birth chart of the US and New Orleans, from AstroDataBank we have a great summation of the pros and cons of the many charts considered to be the "birth chart" of the US. It sure doesn't seem to be July 4, 1776, for all kinds of historical and astrological reasons. This is a great resource if you're interested in the birth chart of this country, with graphics and explanations and commentary. I believe that the birth chart for the US is either the ratification of the Articles of Confederation or the Constitution. If the former, we're in deeper than we think, since Mars, the planet of aggravation, hassles, war and upheaval is about to go stationary retrograde on the exact degree of the US Moon, and Uranus continues its exact conjunction with the US Sun. We would also have Pluto opposed Uranus square Mercury, with Saturn opposing the national Pluto soon to conjunct our Leo Ascendant, promising very difficult times ahead.
This would certainly explain the revolutionary upheavals going on at present, and portend some pretty radical and violent events to come. This chart, if it is in fact the most accurate in showing national changes and events, promise us that the extremes have just begun, and that there are changes to come that are so far-reaching as to defy description. We're in for national upheaval on a level not seen in decades, perhaps since the Civil War. Thank you George Bush for "bringing it on." You will go down in history as the worst president, the most corrupt, inept, indifferent, and incompetent in American history.
From one site:
Signing of the Constitution
Birth Date: 9/17/1787, 11:29:00 AM, Philadelphia, PA. "The data is for the signature that finalized an adoption of the present U.S. Constitution subject to ratification by the individual States. The... Constitution was declared effective as of March 4, 1789."
From Lois Rodden:
"On July 24, the convention named a five-man Committee of Detail to sort everything out and draft a coherent summary of all the votes. After nine days, they adjourned and Washington went fishing. The dwindling collection of delegates picked a five-man Committee of Style and Arrangement to undertake the actual writing of the Constitution. "Although they were not supposed to change the substance of what the convention had so far decided ... all five were strong-government advocates. The actual writer was Gouverneur Morris, who re-wrote the original to read, "We, the People of the United States ...." "When the committee presented its constitution on Sept.12, the delegates eagerly began trying to change things all over again... The changing continued right up to the scheduled closing day, September 17, but three delegates ... refused to sign. Franklin still had doubts and reservations, saying "I consent, sir, to this Constitution because I expect no better." "Still ahead was nine months of bitter debate before the necessary nine states ratified what had been written that summer in Philadelphia. Ahead lay the creation of the Bill of Rights... but it was on the 17th of September 1787 when Washington wrote in his journal, "The business being closed, the members adjourned to the City Tavern to dine, after which... retire to meditate on the momentous work which had been executed."
From the NCGR Journal, "Legal Inception of the U.S. Constitution,"
Adopted: Sept 1787, 11.29 AM LMT Philadelphia PA. (AFA).
Sept. 28, 1787 Submitted to states.
Accepts new Constitution: July 2, 1788 by Congress of Confederation (Parent body of Constitutional Convention).
Looking at the chart of the Constitution as the birth chart, we find that Pluto is square the national Sun in Virgo and Jupiter is conjunct the national Neptune. This chart shows Moon conjunct the Ascendant in early Sagittarius. I will of course do more work in the near future on both charts using the same techniques I did for the New Orleans 1805 incorporation chart.
Right now I am favoring the Articles of Confederation chart, as it seems to have more of the powerful aspects describing our current national disaster. However, as with most things, I am keeping my mind open to many possibilities (including the Rudhyar chart) until I feel I have a preponderance of evidence pointing to one over the others. And we will continue this theme in the future, after a few posts on other things.
I read the informations posted about the true birthday of the Us, and was pleased to see that more than one person sees this world as we now it coming to an end.
I have know since a child that the US would suffer great travisty and hardship before Jesus' return for us. I truely hope you are able to reach many people to show them of what is to come.
But do remeber that you know what is coming and can prepare for this.
God Bless you and thank you for verifying to me that I am not alone in knowing these things.
Posted by: Janice Marian Adams, MA | September 06, 2005 at 07:40 PM