The Aries-Libra Full Moon of October 14, 2008 - What Will It Bring?

by Robert Wilkinson

The Full Moon occurs at 1:02 pm PDT, 4:02 pm EDT October 14 at 22 degrees of Aries-Libra. This initiates a 2 week period of more optimism, concern, breakthrough, and unique interactive gifts and circumstances.

First, some technicals. Things may seem out of balance in the weeks to come due to the Moon modifying the Bowl into a Locomotive pattern. We'll need to find compensatory energies to fill in the void between Taurus and Leo, so get ready to initiate, simplify, follow through, examine, decide, and play with the new feelings that should be coming the next two weeks. The Full Moon is exactly sextile and trine Neptune, which will create Strength and Courage as we do purifications. Our "will to wholeness" will break up many old "complexes," and much should erupt that has been bound before now.

The New Moon at 7 Libra set the seed of Grace, Transfiguration, and Ideal for this time period. From Virgo through the coming Pisces lunation, the New Moons are all within the span of the Bowl, with Saturn leading and Uranus closing the half of the zodiac that's occupied at present. This is showing us what we are possessed of, what we have to offer to others in the areas of our charts occupied by Virgo through Pisces. These New Moons show us, sign by sign, how we are dealing with the larger gestalt patterns we find ourselves within.

The Full Moons of this time span put the focus outside of the occupied half, enabling the collected Bowl experience to express itself filling in the empty spans of experience. This is the first Full Moon where the Moon is not within the occupied signs, so it constitutes an emergent focus. That the Moon is biquintile both Saturn and Venus shows it to be the nozzle for a specializing "kite" pattern, which will show as interactive unique circumstances where our gifts will interact with others gifts in extraordinary circumstances generating optimism.

Mars is the "final dispositor" to all the other planets, showing it's of primary importance. It indicates we need to still our minds to receive higher subtle images of "reflected light" so that we might come to depth understanding of some emotional, social, or cultural energy. As Venus is also in Scorpio, we can expect deeper, more intense feelings to predominate.

As Mars is now in the Scorpio zone of the Grand Irrationality, we can definitely expect dramatic developments in larger collective "forks in the road of destiny" over the next week. It's going to be a fairly wild ride in the near future, and you can bet that decisions made now will be extremely important in what's coming down the road in 2009.

As usual when the Grand Irrationality is activated, things may not make much sense, but they don't have to. Please reference numerous other articles in the archives on how best to deal with this ongoing major energy that has been and will be with us for quite a few years. Humanity is truly at a turning point, and all are finding their truth, way, and allies, for better or worse.

We'll be thinking, then deciding, then feeling. That would indicate that we'll find a depth experience after we act or decide, and so be clear about what you're feeling and experiencing the next two weeks. Get clear about the vision unique to you, find creative ways of communicating what you've come to the past three weeks, and then find a balanced way to move into the new vision.

Again, concern and optimism are the primary themes, along with Mercury at its stationary direct point of hope for new beginnings. The coming weeks will be marked by our ability to quickly adjust to circumstances, and demonstrate efficient functioning. If it's time to move on, do so. If you need to feel at home even if you feel like a stranger in a strange land, find that which is known and familiar in your "foreign circumstances."

This is a time to take a new look at the ideal given what's breaking up, down, or through. This is a true turning point for all of us in how we view our future service based in what's coming home after some interesting questing and wandering. We can find a form of "practical adventuring" that shows us our potential for much broader effectiveness, as well as protective forms that can heal us and allow us to rise to our Higher Self.

What begins in an explosion, a metaphoric "volcanic eruption," will end in those who have labored well finding that which sustains them among those with whom they are linked by a biological and/or spiritual web of energy. This is the end and the beginning, so show care for your new dreams and ideals as you grow into a larger view of the interrelationships of what's happening.

Of particular importance are Oct 17, 20-21, and 24-25. All in all, a fairly good and fairly strange two weeks to come.

© Copyright 2008 Robert Wilkinson

Comments

[S.]

So much of this rings true for me right now. It has been a crazy year and I'm now faced with a major fork in the road, and the decision I make will certainly change my life. The conflict is that neither choice is a 100% happy one, and I've thought about it so much I've thought myself into a hole. And now I've been given an ultimatum. How long would you advise putting off such a major decision? Is there a more favorable time to finally decide, astrologically speaking? Best wishes to all!

[Annette]

Robert,

Would you say a little more about the "bowl" -- or "bowl experience"? All I can think of are the Big and Little Dippers.

Is this a half-full, half-empty sort of choice? I'm grasping at straws here (or at ceramics, maybe).

Safe travels,
Annette

[Liz]

I've noted that the full moon is conjunct my Asc, stimulating a grand trine in air I have with Mars in Gemini and Moon in Aquarius. I'm guessing this must be very significant but can't find any info when the full moon is involved. I'm travelling tomorrow to do a big presentation of my work on Fri - could this bode well for that?
DOB 4/23/57 5:25pm Summit, NJ

[Robert]

Hi S. - Well, it's actually time to move forward in forms of "rebeginnings," so please reread recent articles on what this Mercury RX period has been about. I've found there are few moments when it's easy to make a difficult decision, but the answer is already present when the question is asked so look for what is self evident. What is in the interests of the greater good for all concerned? What is fostering autonomy, well being, loving, wise, intelligent action? Where is your heart at? How can a greater ideal or good come forth, regardless of appearances? Best of luck on your decision, whatever it is.

Hi Annette - The Bowl is one of the 7 Jones Patterns as described in "The Guide to Horoscope Interpretation." You can site google the term "Bowl" and find a few articles where I describe elements of that type. There's also a lot more here.

Hi Liz - Yes, usually favorable Air contacts lead to good interactions, or at least good ideas. With your Asc/Dsc axis stimulated the focus is on you and others in a dance of equals and opportunities. The light is on your balanced, elegant, and gracious self image, while the form is on how to take care of their needs quickly, perfectly, and optimistically in an atmosphere of cooperation.

[Roo]

Dear Robert,as this full moon is exactly conjunct my natal moon which is part of a kite formation i would be so grateful if you could offer me some insight as to the importance of this, thanks a lot,
4th Nov. 1976, 11:25p.m., Redruth,U.K.

[Ondrea]

Hi Rob - I'm curious - in this article you say "much should erupt that has been bound before now" and I've actually seen you reference things being "bound" and "unbound" in previous articles. Having been on the receiving end of a few of those unbindings (and BOY I can tell you that sucked!), I was wondering if there's any advice you can give on how we'd recognize them in our own charts? Are these aspects? Sensitive points? Nodal activity? Specific Sabian symbols? (Am I close?) :-) Thx! Ondrea.

[r]

The Libra New Moon and all astro from the 12th September onwards had a profound effect on me so much that for the first time in my life I was thinking clearly. I can't even describe the feeling properly. It was a combination of heightened awareness but still being grounded, a sense of full responsibility and a complete certainty of who I was and what I needed to do to make my life into what i want it to be. It was the first time in my life I've ever felt proud of myself and liked myself.
Now though.......since I think the 20th of september I've sunk back into the depression and murky thinking. Completely back to the worst state I could be in. Why is this?? I thought the Aries full moon would at least shift something but it hasn't..........I have asc in Aries 2 degrees and a pisces sun. I don't udnerstand how I could get to that higher state of thinking and then sink back down again///

[r]

Just to clarify....it wasn't a feeling of happiness and hope because I was denying my depression.....it was more that I was a fully well-rounded centred 'normal' person for a week or so. I completely accepted where I was at that moment but also the fact that I definately needed to move my life forward to something more suitable for me and EVERYONE around me. I knew of my negative affect on other people and I felt a deep shame for myself but also a determination and pure unshakable confidence in myself and the direction I needed to take.

[Alix]

Hi Robert,
This full moon is happening at the degree over which Mercury went retrograde, I've been thinking about what will spring when Mercury will again go over that degree. Wouldn't you think something needs to be recovered or uncovered here?

[Robert]

Hi Roo - Actually, your Moon is the leading planet in your Locomotive Pattern, and this Full Moon will exactly trigger your natal Moon, leading to new realizations, sensitivities, needs, and closure since it rules your 12th house. Being in the Grand Fire Trine, that too will be activated. Also, since the Sun is beginning to pass through your heavily occupied sector, that energy is being illuminated and being focalized through your Moon. The Full Moon Sun is biquintile your Jupiter and septile your Neptune, while the Moon activates your natal Moon triseptile Mars simultaneously worked on by transiting Mars. You're certainly at a fork in the road of what's ending and opening.

Hi Ondrea - In this case, that addresses the Saturn transit. The first part of Virgo gives us training in "significant form" where we learn discrimination and doing what must be done to train for some form of authentic self expression. We learn the forms on actional, emotional and social, and then individual mental levels. Then we must expand our "education" in the second half of Virgo by doing activities where we prove out what of those forms work or don't, as well as learn practical applications for the energies we experienced back in Leo showing their significance in the first half of Virgo. In that process we "unbind" that which has been caged up by the process, and find new ways to address what we are learning. The first degree of the education sector of Virgo is about confronting a power-wisdom form we're not using. The second degree of that "Actional Education" helps us release internal pressures so we can move into the inner guidance of 18 Virgo. Obviously there are many other things that could be said about that section of the learning/discipleship process, but that's a book on how to view the process of evolution through the lens of the symbols. Where it's happening in your chart, and what aspects it's making to other planets, can tell you a lot of what it's bringing you personally.

Hi r - It surely sounds like Jupiter trine Saturn is helping you get clear! Mercury RX probably brought up some things from your subconsciousness that could help you get balanced once you find a way to view whatever it is that set you sinking. Given how much has been in your 7th house, perhaps it was an echo of a memory of someone that threw you off balance in the past and you need to become conscious of that pattern so you're not bushwhacked by it in the future. This Full Moon can help you see ways to take care of yourself by moving forward. You had a realization and direct experience - now you need to incorporate it in some form of proactive self-care and self-sensitivity.

Hi Alix - This is an illumination of that threshold, and powers up whatever its lesson is. While much should be recovered or uncovered, it's already in motion, and Mercury's final transit over that spot will bring a sense of completion to whatever lessons that degree promised. Perhaps we'll be able to weave the lessons together, or find a new balanced view of the process.

[Wild Horse Running]

Hi Robert,

I read R's comment and I too am feeling one foot in the future, and one foot in the past. My South
Node is 2 Aries, 6th house....NNode 2 Libra, 12th.....and I think I finally understand what this
long journey of falling has been about. My happiness wasn,t somthing I chose, but depended on my
surroundings, my level of comfort, the amount of money I had, how I compared with others.

In the last 3 years..it has all been
taken away...friends have left, it has been a solitary existence, with a low paying menial job, and in a very
negative environment...and much
restriction. But I amazed to find that through this (percieved) awful existence...I am connecting (slowly)
to an inner source of strength, ability to choose how I will feel in any moment...and the idea that happiness
depends on outer physical things, is fading.

However now it feels like there is a fight going on within, and maybe as this Libra/Aries full moon conjuncted
my descendant/acsendant within 10 degrees (12 degrees Libra/Aries)....so Im straddleing the future and past?
... my birthday, next months Full Moon of Nov (15)....21 Taurus, sits exactly on my natal moon...the sun/moon have returned
to their original aspects, is this month before a testing ground? Im being shown what is necessary for the
future...and seeing/feeling/looking in mirrors everywhere around me...at the past, that isn,t quite past...yet.

Like being shown the door, but being "held back" and unable to open it yet?????? Or am I holding myself back?????

Thanks for the space..it helps to let some of the struggle going on within, straighten out...

Namaste..to all..

[Wild Horse Running]

...your response to "S." was "the answer is evident in the question"....
it seems Im always drawn to ask you a question...when I have the answer...?

:-)

[Robert]

Hi WHR - You learn less from work for its own sake than meditation that helps you balance your view and be less extreme in your positioning. Be the peacemaker, especially between the warring parts of yourself. You do have one foot in the future and one foot in the past, as do we all. It's just now you're experiencing the light of self awareness showing the need for new ways of being with others. Inner source of strength for you only comes over time and through experience in your own persistence. Yes, this month is "before the beginning," even as it powers up your renewed self image for another year. Go for the balance and evening out, then it should become a resource at your birthday. Libra rising is often tentative before entering into something new. Perhaps you experience your self before you see the light of that self.

For a question to arise, it implies there is that which believes it does not know. And yet, the very form of the question implies an angle of vision. To examine why the question arose from that angle gives us a lot of information about the question itself and our position on that thing which seems to be "not known" to the perceptual vehicle. Even not to know an answer for a while shows that the answer will eventually be known if the question has any true relevance to the inquirer. In your case, the frame of "past and future" is the key to understanding, since that is your direct experience of what's going on. By knowing the past and present it is often easy to describe elements of the future. And the Eternal Mystery of Becoming-ness also allows us to not know some things so that our imagination can be surprised and stay active and healthy until we believe we know it.

[Wild Horse Running]

One last time,

I have had dreams since 2004, and as recent as last week, that this wouldn,t
be "done" untill April 30th....weather it signifys that date, or its a symbol for the number 7...

Ill be 49 next month, on this Full Moon returning to its natal posistion in my chart... I have never felt
less in control of my life....is the 12th house NNode also about letting go, trusting the
Universe?...housing arrangements are scheduled, at this point to end at the end of the year...after
2 1/2 years of difficulties...and finally understanding that they were showing me, myself...
and I have no clue what is next, where...etc. I hope to God, that this "birth"...transformation
is coming cause to tell you the honest truth...Im a little scared. I have been told by others there could
be a 30 day delay...due to "holding onto the past"...5 planets in fixed signs...being stuck???

I haven,t been very good at "sharing/communicating with others"...12th house venus...hiding/hidden
emotions/feelings....need to open up...thanks for helping me to.

Que tenga un buen dia....:-)

[Wild Horse Running]

thks for your response...sorry Im writing so much today...Im having a difficult time.
Your
comment about the warring parts of myself...is simply being magnified in the physical around
me...my roomates, the current place I call work, which is difficult...the customers/co-workers
all magnify/mirror that part of me...so much so that Im having to discipline myself to not
continue to participate. And that is a new thing....discipline...and the way that I choose
to conduct myself. It has been automatic in the past...with no concious thought about
choosing how I would act....now Im "feeling the attitude/energy of those who are projecting
less than positive attitudes"...not liking it...and
deciding that I would like to treat others, and conduct myself in a more positive manner.

And here I most likely answered my own question....I KNOW and understand that when you
let go of...don,t vibrate to the same energy , shift/change on the inner...that the outer also
changes and shifts....It is a matter of time...as I am shifting/morphing/changing my attitude
perspective...from that which I find myself....which surprizes me..as I guess I always thought/beleived
that to change, you needed to be surrounded/surround yourself with NEW places/people things. But from
my past history that never worked...I lived in many different states/places...different jobs/relationships
etc....and my inner state stayed the same. Over the past 3 years Ive taken a journey to major difficulties/
a nightmare..some would call it Hell....
only to find the beginnings of what I never found....running to what I thought would bring
me Bliss.

[Wild Horse Running]

Robert,

You said persistence in your response....maybe this is a very bad day, but I am so tired....
I have done nothing for the last 3 years but be locked in a prison cell that I guess I sentenced
myself to, and interview, examine, dis-mantle the "other prisoners"...(aspects of myself)...and
all the while record in my dream journal the slow changes....that continually show me evolving/transforming
but were just not there yet....
I just don,t have anymore gas left in this car to continue this journey
much longer. I feel like a scientist who has been very focused on finding the answer/cure to cancer or some
other disease, and all other life has been put on hold.

Im just venting...there is a bunch of energy today...that I don,t know what to do with.....

Tks...namaste..

Hopefully

[Shazza]

OMG...
i just want to add in my 2 cents..how i came to this page is a phenomenon in itself.I am not very clever with astrology but i do know what my Rising is ..(which is Gemini.My Sun is Pisces)as i have done my Natal charts.
Coincidence or no..its the 17th October today (GMT+8hrs)
Just lately, i have stumbled upon this 'Law Of Attraction' and a couple other philosophies that made me think quite a bit abt The Universe and my place here and now.
Just recently there were so many coincidences regarding this particular full moon.Coincidences that were trying to catch my attention to this particular date..13th October 2008.
It was only today i discovered what i had missed..i only know i did the craziest thing on that day itself... bought the watch i eyed on for months and booked for a brand new car!
Certainly life-changing as it is something i would never ordinarily do ( bearing in mind that it is a huge commitment paying for a car for 7 years,with my low income)
But i did it!...just at the spur of the moment!
Having read 'the Law of Attraction' i suppose made me rather optimistic!
I have earmarked this website for further reading and investigation.
While i am here i also wish to thank the Universe for bringing me to you, Robert.
And thank you for a very enlightening write up.
I know now.. i am on the right path to Truth.

[Wild Horse Running]

Dear Robert...and all others who come to this "resturant" for nourishment..

Apologies and thanks for so many postings yesterday.....I guess I needed to
release some energy, and this morning the dust has cleared, and I have a clearer
view of many things I have been struggling with.

Namaste..

[Robert]

Hi WHR - I'm glad you can find connectedness here while in transition from your "old self" to your new Self-realization. It's true there are times when what's done is done, and until then you're just trying to enjoy yourself while the bread is baking. 49 is the 7th 7, the double Climacteric in traditional Astrology. Welcome to the introduction of "if it works it's true, if it doesn't work it's not true..." with past and future considerations not really relevant. 12th house NN shows closure rituals are good. There are no delays in our cosmic timekeeper. Only in our need to control outcomes is the appearance of delay. As to your second comment, please remember that even when we are no longer generating patterns, we usually experience echoes of them for some time so we can become resolute in our recognition of what doesn't work for us any more. Over time we reprogram our subconsciousness to see what is no longer true from many angles of appearance, and consciously reject that which is unhelpful or corrosive, including relationships that are only there until we recognize the need not to go there any more. Discipline is often simply the recognition of what works vs what doesn't. It's seems like you've learned the lesson of "you take yourself wherever you go," and now you're simply learning not to be reactive to the unhelpful attitudes in your environment. Prisons are ruled by the 12th house, and that's your NN. I guess that could be a clue to your line of greatest evolutionary development. Since meditation is also a 12th house thing, perhaps that's why Ram Dass' prison meditation project did so well, and continues to?

Hi Shazza - Welcome to the cantina. Co-incidence = "Together happening." I guess it's the perfect time for you to find your way to Professor Robert's community of intelligent, loving, wise Souls. With your new discovery of the law of (magnetic) attraction, I must recommend the book "The Wisdom of Florence Scovel Shinn," since she's the grandmother of these things. Good basic source material from 70-90 years ago that fills in the blanks that the more recent material conveniently avoids discussing. Enjoy perusing the archives, and truly, may you find exactly the health, wealth, love, and perfect self-expression that is your Divine Birthright.

[Wild Horse Running]

Robert,

Thanks so much for your comment. You gave me a clue/key with the 49 7/7 insight...that also showed
up in a dream 4 years ago...about "graduating in 77, (which I did in real life) but now I understand
the connection to the 49th year. In the last 2 days, I was taken back to visit/feel the "past"...and
my attitude, and my mindset..and automatic responses...it didn,t make me feel good, but I couldn,t
"see" myself before this. Are we wired to be able to change/make a different choice, move in a new
direction, when we finally see?? Are barriers broken down within, when you finally get it, that
the person your pointing the finger at is actually you?

I listened to your radio show on awakenings...it was really helpful.

Much gratitude for your wisdom/help...:-)

[Melody]

Hello everyone,

* Melody buy's everyone in the cantina a cool drink of
whatever is thier poison :)*

This thread is definately a belly up to the bar thread. I want to really THANK * WHR * for sharing
many particulars of the difficulties going on. We're ALL going through stuff I think. I would like to send out a heartfelt moment of love and light to all.

Now as far as this Full Moon ... Like HELLO ...

I have a stellium of 4 planets in Aries that are Intercepted within my 9th house within Pisces. This
Full moon felt akin to Labor pains on a very deep subconcious level. I have Libra in the 3rd intercepted in Virgo ( ruling my 2 AND 3rd houses ) but literally no planets .. Lots of asteroids but no planets. I have interjected ALOT of asteroids into my chart because as I have noted that Roberts way of doing astrology is not only infinately more accurate than most and more deliniating of waves and cycles of activities which by far more informative than just running through one's natal chart. By adding asteroids thier like * adjective's * of energies that take form within the overall symbolism of the prevailing cycles.

Gee, there's so much I could throw out there with this thread but I am trying to keep it brief ....

First off, Robert's comment of
"if it works it's true, if it doesn't work it's not true..."
Like is this an Aries credo or what ??
This one line is more of how I have spent my life approaching things than many I have ever read. I apply it to EVERYTHING in my life ... people, paths, places ...everything.
But that OTHERS live, view and approach the world in a TOTALLY different manner has taken me YEARS of mistakes and heartache to understand sometimes devistatingly so. So how does one reconcile this way of living ?? I guess thats more of how does one live the warrior way.

It's the journey, the path, the ideal ... not the destination. This too ...has come full bore out of this full moon ... Living from the inside out.

I have been delving deeply into WHAT it is that has gotten me and my family through the last several years of difficulties and trying to MOVE very stuck subconcious energies.... Taking Qi Gong has been a really great start for me ... getting back to my roots as been another....
So now I come to the dreaming portion of this segment ;) - WHR .... LOL

Right on with the dream journal and journeying .. I have done it since I was a little girl ... In my
dreaming of late .. I keep coming back to Tree of Life symbols and ancient rituals involved, earth energy works and wierdly enough years of ( hope no one freaks over this one ) documenting ethereal and ghostly energies on film ... Still putting all the pieces togeather ...

But I do know one thing ... All things change and as the energies flow as a river ... being rooted from the inside out seems to me not only very healthy but
the most effective way of reaping one's most inner and outer potentials...

If anyone has read the Celestine Prophecy .. it speaks much about the interactiveness of people an thier aura's and thier energies and how thier desires effect thier lives, themselves and those around them many times distructively so ..because the energy intention is stemming from a wrong desire or value ...

It has been incredible helpful to me in my life to develop the inner values or inner root and stem of the tree first ... and to give it the importance it deserves in one's life .... It is not much different than what most ancient cultures did by honoring the cycles and the earth .. this connected them to the earth, to life and to each other and the benefits of such ways of living have been completely lost to modern man in what he values and how he interacts with everything and everyone.... with the resulting world wide Dis-Ease on all levels ..within and without himself. I guess one can put it very simply by saying something like ... well, you can't walk a path if you can't see it.

As Robert has said before many times ...
As the roots, so the flowers ....

Does this make sense ??

Sorry to ramble ... but I could talk for days just on this one post alone and all the off shoots it started my brain going off too ... :)

Namaste and peace to all
Melody

[Melody]

P.S.

Another favorite saying .... I want to share ..

" Happiness is a choice - Not a circumstance "

Lots of love all
Melody

[Wild Horse Running]

Thank you Melody...for shining the light on another part of myself, that I didn,t
see...The Complainer....sorry, I wasn,t aware that I was spewing
or serving poison to others....however it is very prominent in my environment...
but didn,t see that I was doing it also.

I am now aware.....thank you.

[Lynne]

Please help. I am supposed to buy a car tomorrow. My old one is in terrible shape. Is October 20, 2008 a good day for me to buy the new car? Thank you Lynne

[Melody]

WOW, Talk about mercury retrograde ...

WHR ...forgive me but I was not implying that at all
about you. Please accept my apologies for the misunderstanding. In fact I am not at all certain as to how you drew that conclusion from my posting.

It is only when we start to ASK why of ourselves and others and interact that we can begin to move energies forward... in our lives, ourselves and even in others. People should not feel that they burden others by trying to ask questions and interact.

I was very overjoyed that you shared what you did .. I thought it would make for interesting interchange and * inspiration * for all.

Maybe it's my Arie's-ness but I believe interchange
important and healthy .. as long as its not demeaning to anyone in the conversation ..EVERYONE has the right thier point of view .. thier struggles ... thier journey and most of all... thier own conclusions of thier own journey ...

So sorry that you viewed it otherwise ..I hope you continue to SHARE...with everyone.

Blessings and Namaste
Melody

[Melody]

One more thing :) I'd like to comment on...

If there is one thing in my life that has been a main stay .. it is the understanding of and coming to the understanding of psychological poisons ( natal Venus in Taurus conjunct asteroid Nessus in opposition of my moon conjunct Neptune in Scorpio ).

The world and albeit the universe is made up of a fabric of vibrations and energies ...WE, as human beings are like energetic coccoons or eggs of energies within the layers of other energies ...

So .. when we are surrounded by OTHERS negative energies ... it is NATURAL that we will absorb them like a sponge .. unless we are living a life that is focused on forward movement and self awareness.

Thoughts and emotions are also energy.

Stay too long in someone's negative sphere whether they ever SAY anything to you or not .. your GOING to absorb some of that energy ... you may get ill for no reason, nausea, start feeling emotions that are not your own and thinking thoughts that if you were alone you would probably never ever think. This can personally run havoc on your emotions and your own sense of values if your are not aware of where this negative GUNK is coming from nor how to clear it out
and get back to being personally centered.

The wonderful blessing and gift of being human .. is as Robert is so wonderful at reminding all of us ..
We have FREE WILL and we must choose to use it and we
have a personal responsibility to become self aware.
Try and get rooted in your sense of self values and self awareness ... or as this wonderful Irrationality
waves of energies is want to create for us we can get swept up into it or worse we can stay stuck in our own whirlpool of past responses, negative
conditioning, unconcious behaviors or self
generating negativity by being bombarded and sustained by an atmosphere of others
negativity.

Now everything that I have said here .. I have said for the sake of all ..is not in any way directed solely towards you WHR for in truth I do not know you nor your situation ... but my heartfelt response to one and all with ALL of this stuff going on in the universe around us ...is to say to all...

Your not alone .. :) Nor do you have to be. :)

I guess that everything that has come from this post of the Aries and Libra moon is quite right on in a way.

Libra functions in balancing,weighing and finding the right proportions of things and interacting especially in relationships .. along with aesthetic beauty and art.

Aries is not only pioneering but focuses on a goal -
occassionally looking before they leap across the crevass :)LOL But still .. focuses only what step next will take me to the next step and move you forward to the top of the mountain or the goal. All else .. is let go of for the sake of the journey and you take only what is useful and what you need. And you hopefully - enjoy the adventure of a new experience.

Blessings
Melody

[Wild Horse Running]

Melody,

Your posting was a key, that brought alot, to light. I have done nothing but
ask why of myself, and my interaction with others for a long while. But untill recently, the
hidden aspects of myself have been locked in that dark subconcious basement....and very recently subtle interactions
are causing the lights to flicker on and off, and I am getting glimpses of the parts of me that
have not been strengths. There are parts of myself, that have lived past the expiration date...
and I need to let go of. And maybe its been difficult to see myself, as Im very fixed....a scorpion with
a grand square/5 planets in fixed signs....and escaptist tendencies....

We all wear different glasses of perception, maybe I percieved it differently then you
ment, but I am grateful for how I saw it, because it is has caused awareness in the way I was
presenting/speaking, allowing my energy to affect others (negatively)....one of my chief complaints about
those around me...."Untill you understand your past, you continue to repeat it"

....you have helped me to understand, and for that I am most grateful.

Gratitude and Blessings...

[Wild Horse Running]

one last thought....
I have a ray 4 soul ray.....harmony through conflict....In the past
I always ran away, when things got difficult/hard etc. I hate to admit it, but I have learned more about myself
in this difficulty period, and understand that for me, as I have that square in fixed signs...that the most
awareness, learning comes for/to me...as things get tough. Kind of like being at the bottom of a stagnant
cesspool, and getting so sick of it/ that I begin to change my behavior within it.

And I have seen the process, it starts out as a dislike/uncomfortability towards someone/somthing...then
I identify what it is...and point the finger at them....after a period of time...through interactions
with others, I realize much to my dismay, that I am seeing myself. Your letter was trigger, so that
the archetype of "negative-complainer-pesimissim"....could be "felt".........and in the past, I have had martyr tendencies, and I would dwell on it, give it life, hold it out for all to see.

Like the scorpion, that has stung myself over and over..... I now have a glimpse of that part of me, each time the impulse presents itself...(as it will, as its subconcious, in the process of becoming concious)...I now can choose to override that impulse...
as you have helped me to see it.

To be in it, but not of it....... regardless of your surrounding
circumstances/the storms going on around you,
.... it depends on your inner gardener,(strength/positive attitude/way that you see the world)
as to weather your flowers blossom, or wilt.

And it has taken me along time to understand what I just wrote....but now there is one more bulb
shining in that direction.

Namaste amiga...

[Melody]

:) Thank you so much for sharing and I am glad
if I have been the tiniest least bit of help ...:)

your second to last post ..popped a vision in my head of a movie ... Stir of Echoes ..I think it was called.

The main character suddenly has his ESP doors opened inadvertantly by his wife's sister as a fun parlor game of hypnosis at a party. He suddenly has his psychic doors open to him and consequently to those
etheral beings around him. His wife goes to see another psychic who is a cop .. someone she finds via her own psychic son.

The cop/psychic tries to explain what's happening to her husband to her the best way he can .. and it almost exactly has you have described in your post about lights flickering on and off in the basement of your subconciousness and he describes her husbands abilities as a flashlight that goes on and off without
rhyme or reason.

Oddly enough when she asks the cop/psychic about her son... he smiles and says ... He's a much better Flashlight! :)

Again ...I'm glad I could shed any light at all ...I have often been called a catalyst and I am working hard on reigning in the intensity of my emotions ...it's hard though as all my 4 Aries planets including my sun is muted in my intercepted house of Pisces - therefore I float through the oceans of conciousness constantly confronted with the big picture - like a left over hippy from the sixties :) LOL with a direct line to past life memories within the present in myself and others or from floating above so to speak. I myself find - connecting with others in a conducive earthly manner rather difficult at times but I am funneling these lessons and excercises through Virgo/Earth/Praticality/Vesta into a much more healthier approach ... at least I hope.

It's the only way to ground living from the heart. From
the inside out and bringing beauty into yours and others lives.

Those the present worldy changes...wreck havoc with this particular philosophical approach to living and
being.

One of my favorite movies....the Isles of Roan Inish ... for I am selkie at heart and Irish/Scotch to boot ... They say in the movie that living somewhere between the world of Earth and Sky ... the world of Myth's is real and alive.

And when the Tree of Life is reborn and the roots replenished... the true renewable healing of archetype
of Man ... will once again dance in the hearts of man. :)

Just remember... that within every scorpion lies the heart and soul of an Eagle and the power of the Phoenix. :)

Blessings
Melody

[Robert]

Hi Lynne - Could not answer before now. If you're still planning on buying a car, email me.