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J. Sue Gagliardi

Hi Robert!

I wonder if you've ever used the Noon chart rather than the Sunrise? I use it because I know that the Moon will not be more than 7 degrees from its true position.

What do you think?

Always Blessings,



You cleared my long time doubt. Thanks!


Hi J. Sue - Yes, I've used both, since you're right about the Moon. But I'm not sure that people let their light shine to the world. They do, however, continue to shine a light upon their image of themselves. Still, I've seen accurate delineations done for both sunrise and noon, as long as the Ascendant isn't taken to be the sign in square to or the same as the Sun. Aspects to the planets work great, not so sure about house positions for noon charts, though it seems that the solar positions work.

Hi Mary - I try not to be absolutist about things, and that's led me to see the possibilities of a "both-and" rather than an "either-or" way of viewing dualities. That said, of course some things cannot be had "both ways," though examining each will still yield valuable insights.


This is really useful, thank you!
Being a novice in all this, I'm still a little lost as to how exactly to draw up a Solar chart. If I go to astrodienst, say, would I put in a birth time that puts the sun at the very start of the first house? So at 1 degree?


Hi Robert, if you have the time.

So I understand then is like making a reading for a Solar Revolution but in full-life scale, Solar 1st is in my Natal 4th, my Solar 2nd is in my Natal 5th and viceversa.
It adds quite a lot of information, so I must process it anew LOL

Isabel Nobre

I practiced a little bit by turning my own horoscope into a Solar one in the way you describe - and though the "general tone" does not change much, the houses do change. Do you think one could use both types to have a more "rounded" view of oneself and areas of our life?

Specifically, if for instance certain areas of one's horoscope are "empty" and become filled with planets as we turn the wheel to make the Solar horoscope, does that mean that we hold INNER RESOURCES to deal with those areas, even though apparently there was not much at birth "visible there"?

A practical example: Once I hear someone tell a "would be writer" that "he would never publish anything, because hos third house was empty" - I thought this did not sound "good" to me. Would a solar horoscope permit to look for third house energy there?

Thanks if you can shed some light about this.



Hi zeta - No, you would calculate a chart for sunrise.

Hi Henry - Actually, you're speaking of another whole thing, which is to see how the Solar would fit into the natal, and vise versa. That's another whole type of analysis.

Hi Isabel - Yes, pretty much only the house positions change. And yes, it gives more information about our Solar Self. Occupied houses deal with how our Solar Self views reality, whereas the natal shows how our "self image" views reality. In your example, the "astrologer" you quote didn't know astrology. Publishing is ruled by the 9th, not 3rd. I'm sure the 9th had a sign on it, ruled by a planet. If a house is not occupied, one defaults to the ruler of the house. Since every house has a ruler, nothing is doomed to fail as long as we use that ruler to its best function.


Natal/solar review at this time does an interesting kind of melding together. Melding is a conundrum of sorts for my virgoan brain, but its the wave that I am riding. Fuzzy, it's experiential, and only logical in some kind of wavy sort of way.

Surf's up. I find myself riding time instead of being subject to it. If there are any surfers out there, any kind of surfer wisdom about how you handle yourself on the ocean waves would be helpful. I'm doing okay with it, but every once and awhile I take a dive and have to empty the sand out of my shorts.

Isabel Nobre

Dear, dear Robert!

You have just lifted a WHOLE BUNDLE of WEIGHT from my chest!!!

Good! So, Virgo in the cusp of the ninth would be ruled by Mercury? And Mercury RX being at 11 Aquarius (one of the degrees that a few months ago was activated) and trine the Libra Mid Cellum is not so bad? Also rules sixth house and seventh both in Gemini.

Well, "food for thought", I am sure.

And, with a Sagittarius Ascendant, (ninth of the Zodiac) and Jupiter conjunct Sun that would possibly reinforce ninth house activities?

All the best, thanks...



Hi caliban - When in doubt, crouch and lower the center of gravity! Plant your feet in ways so you can sense subtle shifts in how the wave is breaking. Learn how to step forward or backward, depending on where the board is on the wave. And enjoy the ride despite the occasional wipe out!

Hi Isabel Nobre - Glad density is decreased! Yes, Virgo is ruled by Mercury, and yes, much in your chart is Jupiter, Sag, and 9th house focus, though in 3 entirely different ways.


Robert, I found the perfect surfers on utube. Very grounded. The Escarpment Surfers. Some of the music may be a little jarring for some, but grounding for me. For some real poetry in motion, check out the autumn one if you get a chance.

Lowering the center of gravity. I like that. Very good for earth woman. The waves, still working on that one. You are indeed a treasure trove.

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