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Lisa

This comment doesn't apply specifically to this post, but I've been wondering this week about Ted Williams, dubbed as the Golden Voice after being discovered on youtube.com while he was homeless. His dob is September 22, 1957.
Robert, have you looked at his chart by chance? This guy has had an incredible streak of luck on his side over and over again in the past year or so. Although, his lower nature seems to keep him addicted to drugs, alcohol, and looser women. He consistently is getting in trouble for his lower nature activity, yet he is given chance after chance to be given top notch opportunities in the entertainment industry. Due to his unique voice, this week Oprah announced she wants Ted to be the "voice" for her new network "OWN"

This week, Dr. Phil, who has befriended Ted for some strange reason is offering to pay for trips, so that Ted can visit his family, dental work for Ted's teeth, which he blew off and didn't have done, and even providing treatment at an detox facility.

This whole situation amazes me astrologically! Usually, people have time periods where they can make choices to move ahead with an amazing opportunity, or in Ted's case opportunities) due to timing of astrological angles, but it can all be lost when our lower nature addictions takeover, and we don't make the changes necessary to align with our opportunities! This guy can do no wrong and still be given amazing opportunities in life! What do you think is astrologically causing his outrageous good luck, while forcing him to face his addictions big time?

Isabel Nobre

Hello,

I have been looking at his birth data (no time of birth, though) and two or three aspects made me think:

A North Node in Leo may be linked to his "theatricality" and his special voice...

Sun conjunct Mars at the very end of Virgo may betray some "urgency" to clean himself and structure his work, but many times also an impulsive, possibly aggressive or passionate nature.

His Venus and Neptune in Scorpio may have something to do with his dependency - which may be a wrong way his Soul has of trying to quench a thirst too deep for easy answers... Like a sort of misgueded mysticism...

And the fact that his Jupiter is in Libra, where Saturn has been for the last months, may mean that this conjunction between Natal Jupiter and current Saturn has somehow "propelled" him to the eyes of society in general, with so many benefactors (Jupiter) trying to teach and correct (Saturn) his ways...

Well, but maybe this is all gibberish...

Sorry!

Isabel

Beth in San Diego

I am blogging on this garbage today.... thanks for the backstory Robert;

Rania

Hi Robert!

So here is my take on astrology and this new crap thats coming out. Lets just say the pole shift does change the signs. It doesnt really work because the zodiac effects us due to thousands of years of mentalism. Take the laws of attraction for example. In physics they are finding that conciousness actually affects matter, which means that our own physchological understanding of the planets and their meaning, causes them to affect us and our own personalities and over thousands of years. That can have a strong effect. So basically, if the signs change due to pole shifting, its gonna take a very very long time for that change to actually affect people.

I truly believe astrology works because of conciousness and our own reflection of our beliefs of how the planets affect us. Does that make sense?

Cathari

I got that article this morning, and first chance I had I came to Global Astrology! Thank you for responding, Robert.

www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=4302060

The new rumor is that the changeover to this new chart begins in 2009. Have you heard of this? Do you know what it's based on? Is it as off-base as the whole idea of this chart in the first place? I'm trying to develop a solid response to people who ask. I know this will become a topic of casual conversation, and I'm need enough information to represent my passion for the Astrological system that I value. Or, if it turns out to have validity, an understanding of how it is shifting. Let me know your experienced thoughts. Thanks!

Micheline

Actually, there is a great article done by Darkstar Astrology and their take on it. One thing they noted is that we used to follow the lunar calendar and it has thirteen cycles and not twelve.
They way Ophiucus is described sounds like a mix of both Sag and Scorpio to me. (I was looking for descriptions.)

I kind of favor a return to the lunar more natural way of living. But that is my opinion and well I am not an authority on Astrology.

It would mess everything up. How we make our charts. ect....

Robert

Hi Lisa and Isabel - I can't really comment about Ted Williams right now, and it doesn't really apply to this stream. I will try to compose something relevant as to why things could happen when they do in the future, but right now I have too many other things to do.

Hi Beth - I figured some of my readers with their own blogs might be dealing with this subject!

Hi Rania - You're actually on to something more profound than most suspect. If collective consciousness and awareness of trans-physical meaning and stages of evolution is as important, if not more important, than any inferential parallels based in limited material views regarding whatever, then our view of major year shifts is more important than whatever someone says about where stars used to be 3000-5000 years ago.

We've had physical pole shifts in other ages, but so far we haven't had one yet. That will change our view of the sky at night, and could affect our astrology, but probably more on a solar systemic or even galactic level than regarding our specific yearly cycles of unfoldment unless our years somehow get longer or shorter. If the magnetic pole moves, which it seems to do on occasion, sometimes faster, sometimes slower, then so what?

How does that have to do with Spring following Winter? Not how long the seasons last, but the fact of seasonal change itself. How does a magnetic shift change the fact that 90 days after whatever we hit a phase which we astrologers call a "square" which has its own specific meaning and function outside of magnetic whatever?

Since collective consciousness actually does affect matter to whatever degree, then you're correct in that our individual and collective psychological agreement about what the planets, signs, and houses symbolize matter more than whatever the Babylonians thought 3000 years ago. If what we think does create an effect, then we will find meaning in our collective agreements, and natural cycles of change will unfold within those agreements. And yes, if we believe that Mars always brings accidents, expect accidents to happen. But that's not really the way the planets work, as I explained in my article on the planetary dualities. They work as we choose to make them work, and once we change patterns, then the new patterns proceed from that point on.

Hi Cathari - You're most welcome. It's just one more time that MSM would rather create distractions than report on more important things. Nothing like confusing the masses so that other things slip under the radar of the news. And of course, I have to note that MSM has a tacit agreement not to report anything truly spiritual, metaphysical, or astrological. It's all fluff and nonsense.

Hi Claire - How could it begin 2 years ago when it's based in a 3000-5000 year old picture of the Babylonian sky? That rumor is absurd. We are living in the reality we're experiencing. The days get longer from December through June in the Northern Hemisphere, then get shorter. That pattern is perfectly reversed in the Southern Hemisphere. The year is still 365+ days, the day is still 24 hours.

The "first sign" will always be the first sign within any collective agreement, whether Aries (counterclockwise astrology), Leo (ancient clockwise astrology) the Rat (Chinese astrology), Otter, Goose, Hawk, Falcon (various systems of native American astrology), or whatever tree, animal, or stone is "the first" of whatever other system we choose to use. Old pictures of the stars in the sky are not useful in determining our current challenges to understand our cycles of unfoldment.

We begin where we are, we observe the times of change in our lives, and the rest is obvious. Activation is followed by stabilization which is followed by distribution. Elements have their sequence, and we move through it all as Eternals having physical, emotional, and mental changes at predictable points within larger cycles. That's why we're ALREADY "4th dimensional creatures." If we can observe changes over time, that's 4th dimensional awareness. Too many rumors, far too little critical thinking about the meaning of the parts to the whole. Not you, but way too many in our world.

And the beat goes on and on and on....

Robert

Hi Micheline - Yours came in while I was composing what I wrote above. Yes, Lunar Astrology is an entirely different thing. There are Lunar Mansions, and old systems occasionally did use 12, 13, or even 14 sections of the sky to measure experience. Again showing that we have infinite ways to measure the sequence of phases we move through in our perceptual reality. How we divide it is less important than the meaning we give to each phase and the changes from one to another within a greater meaning of wholeness.

BritLitChik

Ha! Couldn't wait to get here and see what you wrote, Robert. Appreciate the background info....

I had to laugh when I saw the "new" configs...always knew I was a Leo, ya know, in my Virgo sort of way... ;) We had a good laugh. Thanks again!

Ckalbacher

EDITOR'S NOTE: The following information is incorrect. Please check my response below this one before believing any of what you're about to read. I only leave it up as a warning to be aware this kind of nonsense is being disseminated. My response attempts to use critical thinking skills in dissecting what is asserted in this glamorous "new age" pronouncement. My response is not about ckalbacher, but what "Frank Waters" asserts.

okay

the man with the golden voice - voice as throat chakra appearance in world as force of love associated
with 2012 effects by Frank Waters:

Oppositions of planets at 180 degrees and squares at 90 degrees are regarded as unfavorable aspects. Squares occur here between Sun and Mars, Saturn and Venus, Neptune and Mercury, Jupiter and Venus, Uranus and Sun; and Mars and Uranus are in opposition to each other and squared with the Sun. Offhand, the whole configuration seems decidedly negative and unfavorable at best. ….

The most significant aspect of this unusual pattern is the conjoining of the Sun and Pluto; Saturn in exact opposition to Jupiter; Uranus squaring the conjunction.

What distinguishes Frank Waters, though, from so many other commentators on this event is that he shows us the kind of soul capacities that are being supported in the cosmos at this time to help with the inevitable transformations coming. The capacities also show in the configurations of the planets and concern: a) Neptune in Pisces at a 60 degree angle to the Sun-Pluto conjunction: b) Venus at 7 degrees Aquarius making a sextile to Uranus; c) Mercury in Sagittarius, make a sextile to Venus in Aquarius.

What are the meanings of these configurations? The first indicates that it is possible to activate the capacity of heart intuition during this time, which will mitigate the opposition between sensing/reflex and mind/reason. The second configuration will make it possible to activate a kind of love that mitigates the powerful stress of this moment, where service becomes paramount as a world outlook. The third configuration makes possible the activation of harmonious energy in the throat center – suggesting that language will play a great part in the coming cycle; not the chatter now in use, but words used carefully and creatively with respect for their power.

Terri

This is not only not "news" but not "new" as well!!!

Robert

Hi BritLitChik and Terri - Well, since it's all the news, and people were asking me what it's all about, I had to compose something. The great thing is I got to elaborate on some key elements of how our collective agreements do to some extent condition elements of our relatity. One thing I'll probably compose something on in the future is the Leo Clockwise chart system. It's what I've termed our "reflex chart," in that it perfectly preserves the planets in the houses with their aspects, while showing us "the other side" of our personality. One hint: all Virgos have Gemini as their reflex Sun.

Hi Ckalbacher - Some of this is major gobbledygook. Some is just flat incorrect, while other things asserted happen so frequently as to render whatever he's saying meaningless. Some of what he states is to occur is just not true. What Mr. Waters is asserting is scattershot nonsense. For example, Neptune will never make a sextile with Pluto until 2015-2016 at earliest. That's what "the Grand Irrationality" is all about. Until that time, they are in septile, not sextile.

I looked up all possible configurations that he states, and few of them occur at the same time. Check any ephemeris and you'll see I'm correct. Some of the other aspects he speaks of happen so often that I cannot ascribe major evolutionary leaps to them.

For instance Venus will square Saturn Feb, July, and December 2011 and Sept 2012. Jupiter only opposes Saturn once, that being March-April 2011. It's out of sign and within orb Dec 2011-Jan 2012, but then won't oppose Saturn again for many years. Mars will oppose Uranus only once, that being July 2012. When the opposition happens, the Sun is NOT in a T-square with them, but a quintile/tredecile.

The Sun conjuncts Pluto only in December of 2011 and 2012. It doesn't square Mars in Dec 2011 as it makes a biseptile. The Sun doesn't square Mars any time after Summer 2012. In Dec 2012 it make no aspect to Mars, and Mars makes only a quintile to Uranus.

I must object to this BS being touted as anything real. As for the implied effects, we have the ability "to activate the capacity of heart intuition" EVERY MINUTE OF EVERY DAY, and have since the beginning of the individualization of the race. We can always "mitigate the oppositions" within us. That's an eternal quest. Refer to "balancing the pairs of opposites" well known to students of the AAB/DK material. We can ALWAYS "activate a kind of love that mitigates the powerful stress of this moment, where service becomes paramount as a world outlook." That is precisely our task as disciples of Truth. Language ALWAYS plays a "great part" in ANY cycle. Respect for the power of words has been something taught by many before now. Try reading the works of Florence Shinn.

Please do not leave misleading and incorrect information here. It wastes everyone's time. If you still believe Mr. Waters is correct, please post factual information regarding the above astrological configurations.

caliban

But oh, is not a rose a rose by any other name? Call it what you want. Unfoldment works for me! What I find amazing and simple is that the human heart has been measured as having an electromagnetic field of 8 feet.

But I do enjoy conversation. And yeah, sometimes it ain't pretty. It's something I need to work on for sure.

Robert

Hi Caliban - I'll assume you're speaking to the subject of zodiacs and the various names of the signs when you speak of roses.

To continue with my concern about the Frank Waters material, I have a problem with misinformation and incorrect statements presented as fact, as some things do not lead to the unfoldment of our higher potential. And sometimes when someone is trying to convince us that a pile of cow flop is a rose, we'd be better off not believing it.

Thank you for giving me a chance to offer something about the heart's radiance. The human heart has power that can be measured in some ways, but in other ways the heart is the radiant core of eternal light/life/love which is unmeasurable. The science of the heart is profound. For all who are interested in studying the science of the heart, please get a copy of "Heart" from the Agni Yoga people. It was given to us by Helena Roerich, wife of the amazing Nicholas Roerich.

Ckalbacher

hahaha omg, sorry , standing corrected before being keel-hauled omg

it sounded good, I did believe it actually but not so much now!

I assumed accuracy, - you checked facts, thankyou. says it all-

I wonder if 2012 does not provide a projection screen for people to project
their own visions on, you create yoour own reaity, believe what you want etc.
or perhaps waters belongs to some tradition so esoteric...

- it seems something is going on anyway...
(over my head with it's teeny tiny brain inside it)

interesting nept. --pluto I thought neptune was big part of break-thru grand
irrationality theory- (I've seen others praise the originality of this ,

Robert

Hi Ckalbacher - That's why I specifically noted that my criticisms were not aimed at you, but the inaccuracy of the information by Mr. Waters. I believe you are totally accurate about the "projection screen" theory. I've heard so much insane nonsense about 2012 I've tried to post accurate stuff from the true Mayans in Central America from time to time, but it's hard with so much rumor and speculation out there seemingly fabricated from whole cloth.

I know of no "esoteric tradition" that would be so completely inaccurate regarding planetary positions, so I doubt Mr. Waters is getting it from any legit source. And of course, something IS going on: it's called The Grand Irrationality, a term I coined many years ago to describe the 22-24 year period when Neptune is septile Pluto. They were sextile in the 40s through 1995, and will be again near the end of this decade when they again will be in sextile for a number of years.

Regarding the breakthrough, remember cosmic time is quite a bit stretched out relative to our human perceptual time, even if the time stream has quickened due to a number of factors. I would suggest you comb the archives for some articles I posted not that long ago regarding Uranus awakening the Age of Aquarius when it transited Aquarius, Neptune has dreamed forms of it into subjective collective reality during its time in Aquarius, and Pluto will sprout the seeds of the next era when it too moves through Aquarius a few years down the road. As we only move through about 1 degree of a great Age every 72 years or so, I've made the point that this transition will take several centuries to be accomplished, since the transition zone is about 2 1/2 degrees to either side of the Age sign cusp.

That makes for about 180 years of finalizing the old Age, and 180 years of the beginnings of the beginnings of the new Era (known in the West as the Age of Aquarius and in India as the Dwapara Yuga) that will last for the next 2100+ years, after which the coming Era will give way to an even greater Age, known in the Vedas as the Treta Yuga. For now, we're just in the "in betweens," navigating the intense momentary transitional changes the best we can. As I've made clear in so many articles, all of this is so we can learn detachment, dispassion, discrimination, and how to generate Bodhichitta, or goodwill whenever the need is there to mitigate the suffering and ignorance of our world.

Humanity is on the path of Return, and the eternal challenge is to integrate our personalities, vitalizing the Heart and Throat through Spiritual disciplines of Self-realization to embrace the love and knowledge of the Great Truth of Being. There are some fetters we ALL must learn to overcome, and energies to be mastered on our way to becoming Arhats or Paramahansas. That's why some of these "new age" pronouncements are useless in dealing with humanity's eternal challenges. As the Bard once wrote, "you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows..." Anyone that wants to join the party can start with the "Voice of the Silence," linked on the bottom of the left links under the metaphysical site section. Then "Light on the Path," "Through the Gates of Gold," and the "Crest Jewel." There are many other venerable texts that can help the evolving disciple move and groove into their "Truth of Being." These teachings will be true as long as there is a humanity that needs to learn non-separateness, and even when that evolved goal is reached by us all, there are even greater worlds and realities that lay beyond the veil of Maya....

Actually, you did me a favor, since it offered me the opportunity to remind those reading this to use critical thinking research skills regarding most of the cotton candy put out there. And once I begin to outline the larger picture to anything, it leads to where I've just discussed in this comment. Again, my criticisms were not aimed at you, but at the spurious information being put out there. You just served to help me make some things clear for the thousands who come to this site for accurate information about life, evolution, astrology, and our Spiritual Destiny.

Valerie

Boy the cybernet is really sizzling this week. Thank you for your insights and efforts to clear up the misinformation. I've been bombarded by messages from people in a panic about their zodiac identities. Rock on, Robert. Namaste!

lisa

Here is an interesting article on found on "Live Science" about the zodiac change with more of a scientific side discussing how "Precision" has has caused the intersection point between the celestial equator and the ecliptic to move west along the ecliptic by 36 degrees. I didn't include the figure found in the article. Overall, I know I'm an Aquarian through and through, so the zodiac changing theory isn't legitimate:)

"Figure 3. The graphic shows the precession of the equinoxes from 600 BC to 2600 AD. In 600 BC, the intersection of the ecliptic and celestial equator is in western Aries and marked by the Vernal Equinox. In the year 2007, the intersection is in Pisces.

Figure 2. If you were born between March 21 and April 19, your astrological sign is said to be Aries. But this was only true for a while, back in 600 BC. Today, the Sun is no longer within the constellation of Aries during much of that period. From March 11 to April 18, the Sun is actually in the constellation of Pisces!

Figure 1. The vernal equinox marks the first day of spring and occurs at the intersection of the ecliptic and the celestial equator. The vernal equinox also marks the zero point of the Zodiac.

But before you ask or answer that question, consider this: your zodiac sign corresponds to the position of the sun relative to constellations as they appeared over 2200 years.

The science behind astrology may have its roots in astronomy but don't confuse these two disciplines. Astronomy can explain the position of the stars in the sky but it’s up to you to determine what, if anything, their alignment signifies.

The ecliptic, or the position of the Sun as it’s perceived from the revolving Earth, passes through the constellations that formed the Zodiac - Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius and Pisces. Zodiac signs were originally determined by which constellation the Sun was "in" on the day you were born.

Early astronomers observed the Sun traveling through the signs of the Zodiac in the course of one year, spending about a month in each. Thus, they calculated that each constellation extends 30 degrees across the ecliptic.
However, a phenomenon called precession has altered the position of the constellations we see today.

Precession and Astrology

The first day of spring in the Northern Hemisphere was once marked by the zero point of the Zodiac. Astronomers call this the vernal equinox and it occurs as the ecliptic and celestial equator intersect.

Around 600 BCE, the zero point was in Aries and was called the "first point of Aries." (Figure 1) The constellation Aries encompassed the first 30 degrees of the ecliptic; from 30 to 60 degrees was Taurus; from 60 to 90 degrees was Gemini; and so on for all twelve constellations of the Zodiac.

Unbeknownst to the ancient astrologers, the Earth continually wobbles around its axis in a 25,800-year cycle. This wobble—called precession—is caused by the gravitational attraction of the Moon on Earth's equatorial bulge.

Over the past two-and-a-half millennia, this wobble has caused the intersection point between the celestial equator and the ecliptic to move west along the ecliptic by 36 degrees, or almost exactly one-tenth of the way around. This means that the signs have slipped one-tenth—or almost one whole month—of the way around the sky to the west, relative to the stars beyond.

For instance, those born between March 21 and April 19 consider themselves to be Aries. Today, the Sun is no longer within the constellation of Aries during much of that period. From March 11 to April 18, the Sun is actually in the constellation of Pisces! (Figure 2) See also Figure 3, which demonstrates the precession of the equinoxes from 600 BCE to 2600."

Article source:http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/your-astronomical-sign.html

Ckalbacher

It's an attack really, really nothing less- refusal to allow open minds again..
what is sad is that the controversy illustrates how many people are out of touch
with astrology- the greatest revealer of the the spiritual world there is probably, at least the last few years. Maybe thats good tho', I remember the trauma I went thru when I found it to be true. And there was no one to talk to about it either- you deal with it alone.
The culture is not ready, consciousness requires the practice of meditation techniques that each must do individually too, which makes it nearly impossible,
you cannot just pass emails or something- people have to work very hard on it
in their own time without pay. It will take a helluva long time before the world changes... just wish there could be some enlightenment, I fear its just too hard really. But it's right there to behold in front of us now- it is so obvious...
my god, consider the crop circles even... absolutely repressed and unknown, even ufo's... all signs of the times... To no avail !! Repressed and explained away !! we just aren't ready ... sad really.. but okay.. always is okay...

marci winters

aloha luv and appreciation to you for all you do

quinn

This is a simple question to which there is a simple answer and yet i cannot find a simple way of expressing it. I understand the complexity of the procession of the equinoxes and its own cone-shaped revolution of 26000 years changing where the celestial equator extends out into space etc which (i think) is the cause of the big hoppla about the constellation and the zodiac disassociating (although it will, many milennia from now return to the place where, at vernal equinox, the celestial equator will hit exactly, again, between aries and pisces. roughly less than 24000 years from now BUT and here is the simple bit: if the zodiac and constellations have indeed disassociated and we adhere to the zodiac as more fixed an entity then WHY does the Sun "enter Aries" for instances at different times or days each year. if we have fixed our zodiac and aren't dealing with the degree shifts due to the procession of the equinoxes then why do we have any even slight variables at all???

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Intergovernmental Panel On Climate Change
Environmental Links - Other Things
Avaaz Global Initiative
Center for Food Safety
Cleantechnica Clean Energy Blog
EarthRights International
Ecosystem Update
Environmental Defense
Environmental News Network
Environmental Working Group
Farm Wars - Protect Family Farms
Sacred Passage
Way of Nature Fellowship
350.org - Reducing CO2




Checking Political Facts
Fact Check.org
Media Bias Factcheck
Media Matters
Open Secrets.org
Politifact - Sorting out the Truth in Politics


Discover or Report Consumer Ripoffs!
Ripoff Report
Challenge Corporate Personhood!
ReclaimDemocracy.org


Political Humor Sites
Church of the Flying
Spaghetti Monster

Jesus' General
Juanita Jean's
This Modern World



News Sources and Blogs
ActivistPost
Blacklisted News
Censored News
CommonDreams.org
Consortium News
The Consumerist
Daily Beast
Eschaton by Atrios
Here In Reality
ProPublica - Public Interest News
Reader Supported News
The Raw Story
Tom Dispatch
Transnational Perspectives.org
TruthDig
Truthout


Activists and Agitators For Positive Change
Amnesty International
AntiWar.com
Aquila Ka Hecate
Architcts&Engineers for 9-11 Truth
Counterpunch
Dark Legacy - Bush Assassinations
Fair Vote - Voting Reform
Indigenous Grandmothers Council
Investigative Journalist Greg Palast
Loose Change (the Movie)
Open Secrets.org
Peaceful Streets - Filming Police
Southern Poverty Law Center
Think Progress
Transition Culture
Wellstone Action - Training Progressive Candidates


Strictly Political
538.com
538's Atlas of Redistricting
Citizens for Legit Government
Cook Political Report
Crooks and Liars
DC Report - Tracking Trump's crimes
Digby's Hullabaloo
Fair Redistricting
Head of State - Political Psychology
HuffPolster - Polls
Political Wire
Princeton Election Consortium
Real Clear Politics - Polls
Sabato's Crystal Ball
War Is A Crime.org


Monitoring Voting Irregularities
BlackBoxVoting
Brad Blog
Movie - Murder, Spies, and Voting Lies
Movie - Uncounted
Velvet Revolution


Spotlight on Human Progress
Zero Point - Spiritual Science


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