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Tanz

Robert, please tell me more about "...Astrocartography, which I believe operates from several flawed assumptions. I have not found astrocartography to be reliable. ..." I have played with this technique for about 15 years.

Robert

Hi Tanz - I won one of the first ever done at the national convention (I believe it was 1979) when Jim Lewis first introduced the concept. I tried working with them for quite a while, but eventually came to realize that I saw they didn't work far more than they did.

First, you cannot be born anywhere other than where you are, and simply drawing lines that would put planets on the angles if you had been born somewhere else is not a valid way of looking at anything. Those lines are generated by a gigantic "if" that isn't true. We cannot regard a "what if" as a valid metric for looking at a birth chart, which is a snapshot for a specific moment in space/time. That is fixed by the event. We cannot change it. That is one of the only "destined" things in life. To be born where you where, when you were, to the folks you were born to. These are fixed by destiny, since it was in fact where we took our first breath.

Also got feedback from those who moved to various places along certain lines and found that 9 times out of 10 there was no correlation except if I tried to bend or stretch one out of the client.

Also, the lines that are drawn are quite a distance wide geographically in and of themselves, and I never once found that east of the line versus west of the line meant anything at all. Never found it to be valid in any astrocartography chart I saw based in the feedback I got from clients. Also east of one line may simultaneously be west of another; that issue is not addressed by any ACG publication that I ever read.

Then there's the limitation of the "official" interpretations offered by ACG. A Jupiter line may or may not yield a good or expansive experience. A Venus line may or may not yield a romantic relationship or money. A Saturn line may or may not yield what generalizations they state in their book. Many thought they should have this or that type of experience based in places their lines went through, and never had any experience of that sort. I take the attitude that we can have a positive Jupiter or Venus or whatever planetary experience anywhere we are at any time we want. That is the power of our free will. To give that power to an external place mistakes the source of all power as "out there" rather than "in here." We can find God/power/Spirit expressed through any of the Sacred Lights many places on Earth unrelated to ACG.

And finally, given the huge number of ACG maps where a cluster of lines falls in Siberia, or one of the oceans, or somewhere inside the Arctic or Antarctic circles, it's ridiculous to say that going to that place in the middle of nowhere somehow will magically yield this or that type of experience.

It's absurd to think that if I went to the places in the Ural Mts. and Siberia where it says I'd do exceptionally well that I would do exceptionally well. I don't know anyone there, I don't know the language, opportunities are severely restricted in the remote parts of Russia, and I doubt I'd like the weather or they'd like my politics. Don't think I'd find much of anything 1000 miles from the nearest city regardless of my ACG lines. Those that fall in the middle of an ocean certainly could never yield anything like what they describe.

And ultimately, it seemed that every single time there was even a remote correlation, it was easily explained by something else in the birth chart, usually by the timing on when the person initiated that move or action or relationship. Electional astrology works. That's why the timing on when we do things matters, and we can see definitely correlations in time to those events initiating actions.

When I do relocation, I use Geodetic equivalents, and compare the birth chart with the charts for nations, states, and cities when I have them. If we know where on Earth we are, and the chart of the entity in which we want to live, then we have a legit compatibility/synastry formula we can use according to traditional analytical means. I have found that works best for me and my clients these past 44 years. That, and remembering that Spirit is everything, and matter is merely the field in which we prove the reality of Spirit. Some places on this Earth are better laboratories for doing our Spiritual Being than other parts. I promise, I did much better in Austin and Los Angeles than I would have in Siberia, even though my ACG map says different.

Tanz

Thanks for taking the time to respond. I'm sure I'll be back with questions.

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