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William Croft

Robert, what a perfect alignment with the conclusion of the UN Climate negotiations, occurring today and tomorrow. You wrote:

According to Dr. Jones, creator of the Sabian Symbols, this degree is about individual potential working with "natural resources and social opportunities" so that "personal endowment" can be demonstrated in "organized effort," and "the facility with which men organize the processes of nature for the benefit of the community at large."

Norm

Robert, Some time ago you gave us the name Manly Hall and recommended. I listened to his audio on Destiny and have a question. He stated that you are not destined, or have a destiny, rather you have "cause and effect". For many years I used to tell people that life is full of choices, and every choice you make will determine your future. Basically the same thing.

And from "cause and effect" or karma, or whatever you want to call it, basically says every thing you do, every decision or mistake you make, will have a consequence, therefore karma.

So, as we travel this journey, pretty much made up of a life of "cause and effect" that determines your future, where does astrology come into play? As cause and effect, ie laws of the universe determine our days, months, and years, does astrology really have any bearing on our lives?

Robert

Hi William - Though Dr. Jones always insisted we not take the symbols literally, sometimes they actually perfectly fit the literal reality! Thanks for pointing out the correspondence.

Hi Norm - Great question, and fundamental to our knowledge of how to use astrology to best effect. I've addressed this in several articles in the archives related to karma, turning bad karma to good, "fate" v "free will," and more. While Manly P Hall was a venerable occultist and metaphysician, and I am for the most part in perfect agreement with his statement, karma is more than "cause and effect." As it's a comment stream, this must be brief, but there's more throughout the archives on the subject.

First, there is what I have termed "little k" karma and "Big K Karma." I have mentioned these in several articles. The former is what could be described by the cause and effect cycle of our actions, non-actions, and reactions. These are the choices and the consequences from those choices. "Big K" Karma are sacred Wounds, archetypal wounds we are born into, and did not "cause" in the usual sense of the word. For example, no one who is raped or abandoned as a child "caused" that wound. That wound was inflicted through another's free will, not b/c it's an effect of something we did before that event.

Sacred wounds are those archetypal wounds that we learn to heal through acceptance that we are not limited or defined by that wound. In the courage, strength, and compassion we find in our healing journey, we find we share that wound with countless others, and therefore are not alone in our suffering. That can lead to radical compassion and a sense of the oneness of Life and the Universal human experience, and we can become the voice of love and wisdom in our world for all others who suffer from that wound.

Everything is free will except two things: a) to be born when you were, where you were, to your parents. This is destiny, as is b) the timing on certain events that will force us to choose, and therefore create our character and our "destiny." Our timing on our choices does not show us what choices we will make, but when we will have to make them, thus shaping our "cause and effect" cycles of karma. The laws of the universe don't determine anything, but are more like the rules of the game we all play. They are the "rules of the road," but WE are the ones driving the vehicle as best we can. WE determine our road by our choices, and we determine whether our lives are joyous journeys of fulfillment or long slogs of confusion and frustration.

Astrology is a road map and a weather report. It shows us our inclinations, our strengths and weaknesses, what we are here to develop, and when we will have to choose which road to travel. It shows us our "wholeness" and our "fragmentedness." It helps us understand our potential, and why some things are better off not pursued. It shows us our road map to Self Realization, and what negative patterns we must transmute to become our Divine potential.

caliban

Accepting that sacred wound goes a long way in finding my truth. The confusion can happen when that wound opens up again and I get caught in that place. It is a little state of shock when it happens and I am getting over going into that place of panic and taking action that is not in my long term interest.

What is interesting about this last week is that I learned the way I work best. It was a clear statement and new routes opened up to clear the way. I am less concerned now with the 'wanna be masters of me' and their denigration process to coerce me into submission. (And I do realize, they may have more tricks up their sleeves.) Perhaps their message to me has been to master myself. And not get caught up in their shenanigans. And in the long run, did I really have a choice in this. Having all my creative juices sucked dry is not an option. Super Slog. I can't function. It seems to be where I come into balance with the physical world.

Nic

Thanks for the great information Robert.
No time to waste and much to be open and aware off.
Blessings be to all.

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